November 19, 20232 yr Some timestamps:lukewarm reception of UFT: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=2260 - they expected a broad swath of reception across the spectrum - they don't view products as release and move on, fully expect to continually improve, in a 1-7 year timeframe (they expect at least 2 more years of improvements coming to the UFT/EFB) .. "2 years from now the drama from today will be in rear view mirror" - he's ok with being not appreciated or people having problems with it, they "just allow the products to speak for themselves" - later on at end of interview he also touches on the developers who worked hard on it and had to do re-work once they support they wanted in MSFS finally came etc (I think personally for me at least I have nothing against those devs)censorship of criticism on their forum and threshold article: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=2823 (Pilot Club lead asked this question, he's seen such concerns within his own club too, also concerns about PMDG under-delivering) - in any community there have to be behaviour expectations so they have some for their forum - they are fine with actual product criticisms and they want it .. what they actually remove/censor is grandstanding and "being a d***" behaviour - "if you come to our forum and you're upset about our product then your voice should be heard" ... but in this dialogue they have an expectation that people are kind to each other without attacking/trolling or being antagonistic (bans are only for very serious infractions) - he admits there is a perception that he and PMDG is "rigid" .. he admits a portion of the community feels that PMDG is antagonistic towards them, and PMDG is working on improving this, and how perception is reality. - they felt they were like a big fish in a small pond in the P3D days.. and now market size is orders of magnitude larger, so they need to change and learn, especially from other developers in the MSFS market.dev community and future, given MSFS changing flight sim market: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=4221 - incredible competition in freeware and payware after msfs, vs before when they were "comfortably" at top (good that he admits that I guess? 🤷♂️) - bad products being available on MSFS marketplace dilutes everything else, can tarnish value of actually good products on the marketplace - nearly everyone on PMDG team came from freeware communitymore casual simmers & gamers getting into the community: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=4782 - RSR thinks this is a good thing since coming into MSFS is an opportunity to expand their interest in more fidelity i.e. "gateway drug", even if it's a small portion of these who get interested in higher fidelity aircraft as that's net new users interested in more serious simming - PMDG trying to lower price point to increase this entry of more casual users737 MAX plans: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=5249 - plan is still to release it, but not giving timeline - will get a short window of notice before release - currently some of the primary developers for 737 MAX are on 777 developmentPossible airbus in future: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=5422 - RSR would like to do an A350 (out of all the airbuses that's what he really wants to do), lack of documentation is a problemACARS, CPDLC, Datalink, 777, GFO, etc: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=5617 - 777 has datalink capabilities currently simulated, but needs to connect to outside world (to be fed data) - intending to release 777 with these capabilitiesFuture products for MSFS, team expansion, etc: https://youtu.be/QByw5jN43Bc?t=6329 - re: community frustratation who feel PMDG are slow: recent hiring binge has dramatically increased the team size, they plan to hire more in 2024 - apart from 737, 777, and then 747, there are other airplanes they'd like to develop, so therefore have been hiring and will hire more - those teams are working on these other aircraft currently and when ready to talk about they'll reveal Edited November 19, 20232 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 19, 20232 yr Thanks for the cliff notes. Can't stand the man and his voice so I'm going to pass on this. 😉 Jacek G. Ryzen 5800X3D | Asus RTX4090 OC | 64gb DDR4 3600 | Asus ROG Strix X570E | HX1000w | Fractal Design Torrent RGB | AOC AGON 49' Curved QHD |
November 19, 20232 yr Thanks for this, I’d be curious on the cliff notes for the first two items. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
November 19, 20232 yr Author 1 minute ago, regis9 said: Thanks for this, I’d be curious on the cliff notes for the first two items. Hehe actually I skipped those sections and wanted to learn more about the future stuff, will try to re-listen and update. Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 20, 20232 yr RSR's responses, as always, was articulate and prose-rich. The problem is, I saw the Threshold editors post (that led to his ban, then reduced to a penalty) and it was not a personal attack whatsoever. It was long and comprehensive but it really was limited to criticism about the direction and performance of PMDG. And yet in this interview, RSR states "We LOVE criticism". I think sometimes, it's not RSR who does this banning but over-zealous forum mods. Edited November 20, 20232 yr by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
November 20, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, OuterMarker said: PMDG A350, sign me up! No thanks. They're pretty good at Boeings and a payware quality/'study level' 787 from them would, generally, be well received. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
November 20, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, OuterMarker said: PMDG A350, sign me up! PMDG don't do Airbus. That is more Lefteris @ FS Labs territory. Edited November 20, 20232 yr by JBDB-MD80
November 20, 20232 yr 55 minutes ago, F737MAX said: No thanks. They're pretty good at Boeings and a payware quality/'study level' 787 from them would, generally, be well received. After decades of Boeings only it would be really interesting to see an Airbus, especially the A350 made by them. 28 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said: PMDG don't do Airbus. That is more Lefteris @ FS Labs territory. Did you read the OP or nah?
November 20, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, OuterMarker said: After decades of Boeings only it would be really interesting to see an Airbus, especially the A350 made by them. Did you read the OP or nah? Don't have to not going to happen anytime soon. Maybe in the 2030's Edited November 20, 20232 yr by JBDB-MD80
November 20, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, OuterMarker said: After decades of Boeings only it would be really interesting to see an Airbus, especially the A350 made by them. If PMDG had the expertise of developing Airbus airliners and their FBW logic, it would be a more appealing prospect. That they want to work on the most complex airliner in Airbus' range of products at their first attenpt is either 1. naive, or 2. a throwaway comment solely to spark some advertising. Fenix, FSLabs (if they ever show up) and iniBuilds have a far stronger pedigree and are more likely to develop the A350 before PMDG gets round to it. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
November 20, 20232 yr Author RSR was just answering a question the interviewer asked, if PMDG would ever do an airbus.. and he said he'd *like* to do the A350 of all the airbus models as a personal preference. He didn't say they were doing it, and also said obviously due to the other aircraft in their pipeline any airbus would only come after those. Edited November 20, 20232 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
November 20, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, lwt1971 said: RSR was just answering a question the interviewer asked, if PMDG would ever do an airbus.. and he said he'd *like* to do the A350 of all the airbus models as a personal preference. He didn't say they were doing it, and also said obviously due to the other aircraft in their pipeline any airbus would only come after those. This... 10 minutes ago, F737MAX said: If PMDG had the expertise of developing Airbus airliners and their FBW logic, it would be a more appealing prospect. That they want to work on the most complex airliner in Airbus' range of products at their first attenpt is either 1. naive, or 2. a throwaway comment solely to spark some advertising. Fenix, FSLabs (if they ever show up) and iniBuilds have a far stronger pedigree and are more likely to develop the A350 before PMDG gets round to it. ...but also, PMDG would do fine programming an Airbus product. It's not like they've never done a FBW aircraft before. Also, very interesting that you'd group inibuilds with Fenix/FSL. They aren't at that level yet. Maybe in the future.
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November 20, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, chapstick said: ...but also, PMDG would do fine programming an Airbus product. It's not like they've never done a FBW aircraft before. I'm not convinced. True, the 777 is FBW, but the whole Airbus ethos is different from what they are used to. IMO, it would involve either a long learning process, buying in expertise or both. iniBuilds were listed solely due to having Airbus products in their catalogue with new ones in the pipeline. That puts them in a stronger position, even if they haven't demonstrated high capability yet. 34 minutes ago, lwt1971 said: RSR was just answering a question the interviewer asked, if PMDG would ever do an airbus Fair enough, nothing to lose from saying he's interested. 3 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: I'm still hoping for a pmdg B757-200. While I'm interested in the BlueBird Sim 757 coming next year, RSR was recorded holding with that 757 model aeroplane in a video some time ago... AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
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