Alongside the new 2402 AIRAC cycle, MS is updating the following airfields with new data:

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You will see a small update to your simulator today. This update also includes the first batch of World Hub updates for the following airports:

• 00AK
• 50D
• 66Y
• 7LA1
• AGGT
• BGGH
• EDCB
• EDCD
• EDDC
• EDDF
• EDDR
• EDEN
• EDFY
• EDGA
• EDGB
• EDHE
• EDKB
• EDKI
• EDKO
• EDLL
• EDNY
• EDRU
• EDRW
• EDVJ
• EDVS
• EDWF
• EDXP
• FNMH
• GQPP
• HEAT
• JLA
• KEGV
• KGTF
• KIOW
• KJYO
• KLCI
• KLEB
• KMDW
• KMHT
• KMNM
• KMTH
• KOGM
• KRHI
• KSUE
• KUES
• LEBB
• LEMI
• LEXJ
• LIAP
• LSGL
• LSGS
• LSZH
• MDJB
• MDLR
• MDST
• PASP
• SBGR
• SBJR
• SBVT
• SKLA
• SVJQ
• USRR
• VEMN
• WADB
• WMKP
• Y55
• YPKA
• YPKU

What exactly is entailed with these world hub airports updates isn't defined. (Could and should be stand, apron, taxiway, runway layouts and designations and missing buildings).

Nor does it appear to be voluntary, which will upset some who want to retain old data.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/world-hub-airports-navdata-update-cycle-2402/631381

Would be interested to hear from anyone familiar with the current default airfields listed above for comparison.

Why would anyone want to retain the old version of the airport?  These upgrades should be welcome and mandatory in my opinion.  

Also if you was that bothered about a particular airport you would have likely upgraded it via freeware or payware already and anything 8n the community folder will override the official airports anyway so nothing lost.

2 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

Why would anyone want to retain the old version of the airport?

I have the default detailed EDDF. Obviously I fear the upgrades may have made it heavier for the CPU. If I can keep the default one and opt out of the world hub version, it would be interesting.

2 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I have the default detailed EDDF. Obviously I fear the upgrades may have made it heavier for the CPU. If I can keep the default one and opt out of the world hub version, it would be interesting.

I doubt they are any more intense, updating taxiways and buildings is likely expected.

World Hub? Does this mean that the associated World Hub infrastructure, apps, whatever has been put into use by the beta testing team, with these airports being the first round of modifications? 

Edited February 22, 20242 yr by jrw4
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I am sure I missed an episode somewhere but what is a World Hub  Airport in MSFSspeak ?

Edited February 22, 20242 yr by Dominique_K

Seems to be the equivalent of X-Plane's Scenery Gateway.

17 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I am sure I missed an episode somewhere but what is a World Hub  Airport in MSFSspeak

A portail that allow any users (for now in a closed Alpha/Beta mode) of MSFS to edit default generic airport by fixing small details like trees (exclude), taxiway name/sign or layout. Not as powerful as the full SDK a.k.a Scenery Editor as for example you can't add object from the MSFS library like a generic hangar... and obviously not your own 3D object.

 

Edited February 22, 20242 yr by vbazillio

30 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

I doubt they are any more intense, updating taxiways and buildings is likely expected.

No buildings added in World Hub. 😞

20 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

World Hub? Does this mean that the associated World Hub infrastructure, apps, whatever has been put into use by the beta testing team, with these airports being the first round of modifications? 

As far as I understand, the World Hub infrastructure is made of several layer. The user part (check-out, limited SDK feature), the validation part and the delivery just to take an exemple. Not all layers are yet defined and set but I can imagine that Asobo as a bunch of validated fixes for this group of first airport and make the benefit to the community 😉

46 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

Why would anyone want to retain the old version of the airport?  These upgrades should be welcome and mandatory in my opinion.

A thread over at the official MSFS was discussing removal of disused/closed/built over airfields from the sim's default database. Especially when the underlying ground imagery shows housing, factories, stadia, etc. that has replaced them.

Not only was there some resistance to removal, a few people didn't even want any changes whatsoever. 🤷‍♂️

 

28 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

World Hub? Does this mean that the associated World Hub infrastructure, apps, whatever has been put into use by the beta testing team, with these airports being the first round of modifications? 

It's the start of updating default airfields with the latest information.

However, the alleged lack of missing/new buildings being added in these updates is a little disappointing.

Edited February 22, 20242 yr by F737MAX

No KDFW update?  IMHO KDFW is one of the worst handcrafted ASOBO airports.

I don't use the default KMDW but I know they recently resurfaced runway 31R/13L and it is now taxiway H. Not sure if that is included in this update

I've tried GQPP, LEXJ and LEBB so far and they are better now in terms of taxiways, parking positions, default buildings placement, etc, but still there are some issues. The main issue is that still neither of those airports has proper night lighting (light poles at the apron completely abscent), which makes almost impossible to see anything at night. Also some parking spots are duplicated in the MSFS menu.

The current WorldHub beta was set up (among others) to test the amount of QA needed, e.g. how many people must take care of the submitted reworked airports. I can assure you that they did quite a strict testing. Cleanup of taxi paths, parking spots and taxiway signs is the most tedious work in terms of workload. Scenery objects were not part of this beta, but many participants have voted for opening the WorldHub towards adding/removing/changing standard library objects. Most of apron lighting also is done by library objects - so, there was no possibility to add light.

We should wait and see what further improvements are planned for the WorldHub. If Asobo keeps it as it's now (no change of objects), I doubt that too many people will contribute. The most simple (and needed) task is adding parking positions to those many strips that have only a runway.

@sidfadc: The current changes will not affect fps in any way.

@DaveS: Very recent changes in the airport's layout that are not visible in the used sat/aerial imagery were not allowed to make. The airports have to match the ground image.

@TexasGary: To clean up such a huge airport as KDFW is quite a task. Normally, you won't do that for fun...