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MSFS Auto FPS App

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2 hours ago, fppilot said:

So with these two apps which is it?  HAGS On?  Or HAGS Off.  Is that different for one vs the other app?

Both apps currently don't detect whether HAGS is on or off, but possibly may do in future given I have two cases where FG is being incorrectly detected now and that setting could be why.

BTW, the app will still function for most, even if it gets FG detection wrong. You just may have to halve or double your FPS target depending on whether it detects FG incorrectly as being enabled or disabled respectively. I may put a config file option in the next version to allow FG detection to be disabled completely in such rare cases.

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6 hours ago, LGKR said:

Yes I have tried FG, but as it only works on one sceeen, I turned it off. And HAGS is also disabled.

I do not have DLSSG IIRC in the UserCfg.opt.

I do have

DLSSG 1 and

DLSSGVR 0

if this is of any relevance.

Does this mean I should make a full reinstall of MSFS to rule out any FG- enabled-bug in the code?

 

There should be no need at all to reinstall MSFS. Oh and DLSSG IIRC was meant to mean DLSSG If I Recall Correctly - too many acronyms hey! 🤪😄

I think I know what might be happening here. When you tried FG, you would have switched FG on in MSFS settings, but then you might have turned HAGS off which stops FG working and greys out FG in MSFS. However, MSFS has retained that FG in settings memory as on because that's what it last was before you disabled it externally and your usercfg.opt file setting of DLSSG being 1 indicates that is the case.

In short, try changing that DLSSG 1 line in usercfg.opt to DLSSG 0 before you start MSFS and see if that fixes it. Let me know how it goes.

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5 hours ago, n116dh said:

Greetings All,

So much impressed with the AutoTLOD app; I thought I'd give this a try.  However, no luck so far.  I have an AMD Radeon RXT6700XT with FG enabled.  Trying both DX11 and DX12 in the sim; the app does not recognize that FG is enabled and only with "Target PC Mode". 

Should this app work with AMD cards with FG enabled?

Thanks

How are you enabling FG? If it is external to MSFS then no, the app won't detect it as it checks to see whether MSFS is in DX12 mode AND the MSFS FG setting is turned on.

Even if you are using FG externally and hence FG is not being detected, the app will still work but it just means you have to factor any doubling of FPS FG does into your target FPS by setting it to the non-FG equivalent. eg. if you want a target of 60 FPS with FG on, then you set 30 FPS as the target in the app.

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Thanks for such a quick response.  So, yeah, apparently MSFS is not recognizing AMD's FG the way Nvidia might be. I don't see in MSFS any setting selections for FG on/off.  But, I thanks for the info about external usage.  As the FPS displayed for MSFS is about half  that of what AMD Adrenaline is reporting; I will follow your guidance can see how it goes.  For the most part I prefer to run  MSFS with DX11 (seems to less troublesome than 12); so I will continue to use 11 until such time as AMD/Asobo recognize that FG is active for AMD video cards.

I must reiterate how impressed I am with AutoTLOD,  it has completely eliminated the micro stutters I was getting on approach/landing of the FlightFS Honda Jet HA420.  If you are inclined to try to get some deserved compensation for your efforts (Patreon, etc.) I would be more that happy to contribute.

Regards. 

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54 minutes ago, n116dh said:

Thanks for such a quick response.  So, yeah, apparently MSFS is not recognizing AMD's FG the way Nvidia might be. I don't see in MSFS any setting selections for FG on/off.  But, I thanks for the info about external usage.  As the FPS displayed for MSFS is about half  that of what AMD Adrenaline is reporting; I will follow your guidance can see how it goes.  For the most part I prefer to run  MSFS with DX11 (seems to less troublesome than 12); so I will continue to use 11 until such time as AMD/Asobo recognize that FG is active for AMD video cards.

I must reiterate how impressed I am with AutoTLOD,  it has completely eliminated the micro stutters I was getting on approach/landing of the FlightFS Honda Jet HA420.  If you are inclined to try to get some deserved compensation for your efforts (Patreon, etc.) I would be more that happy to contribute.

Regards. 

It's all good. Hearing how the app has positively influenced users' MSFS experience is enough compensation for me. 👍

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5 hours ago, fppilot said:

OK. I cannot be the only one having trouble keeping up with much of this.  HAGS. AutoFPS vs Dynamic LOD?   I am on RTX 3080 and at one time had the FG hack in place.  I could not get it to work well with either of these two apps.  Likely due to fact that for RTX 3080 FG is a hack.  So I have systematically removed all aspects of the 3000 series FG.  So now comes HAGS as a potential issue.  I currently have HAGS on.  Perhaps a remnant I missed removing of the FG hack?  So with these two apps which is it?  HAGS On?  Or HAGS Off.  Is that different for one vs the other app?

Sorry, but this is now an historic 21 page topic.  My wife chuckles at it, describing it like the wash cycle of her washing machine.  You know, where the garmets are tossed one way and then the other over and over ....  (that is in jest) 😁

HAGS on/off shouldn’t matter with regards to these apps. Re: which one to use: AutoFPS for simplicity / ease of use - DynamicLOD for more user control (pre-defined altitudes for TLODs).

Yeah, this thread moves fast! In a way it’s a good thing as AutoFPS has seen some attention now outside Avsim. And it’s forbidden to discuss it at the official forum, as it violates their precious forum guidelines.

Sorry, didn’t see that Reset already answered. Thought I’d help out a little, but he’s an early bird. 🐦 

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5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Been watching the display in this app, and realized that when flying in  overcast skies really has an affect on FPS

Just departed from Boston in very heavy cloud cover and rain. With Logan Intl packed w/ AI aircraft. FPS silky smooth all the way to clear skies thanks to AutoFPS. Now cloud surfing past NY enroute to Ronald Reagan 😎

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A video which shows the app being in use...

 

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I flew with this add on all day, two different aircraft, the Fenix and PMDG 737. It works great. I even set up the advanced menu, which isn't that difficult.  Makes MSFS smooth as silk. 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Thought I’d help out a little

Much appreciated. For some reason I am getting the short end of this and the question mentioning  the FG hack is because I perhaps attempted too many avenues at once.  That said, after reversing, step-by-step, the FG hack for pre-4000 series RTX GPUs ( I have an RTX 3080 ) I seem to be experiencing stutters with both.  Opposite from what was expected.  Attempting to determine why in light of the overwhelming positivity.  Have eradicated both apps from my system and completed fresh installs.  Will leave both untweaked this time and try again tomorrow.  I likely followed too many paths from this long and winding road, to quote a song.

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9 hours ago, Reset XPDR said:

Both apps currently don't detect whether HAGS is on or off, but possibly may do in future given I have two cases where FG is being incorrectly detected now and that setting could be why.

BTW, the app will still function for most, even if it gets FG detection wrong. You just may have to halve or double your FPS target depending on whether it detects FG incorrectly as being enabled or disabled respectively. I may put a config file option in the next version to allow FG detection to be disabled completely in such rare cases.

I have dumpted the FG hack (using an RTX 3080) and starting over with trying each app (separately).

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

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6 minutes ago, fppilot said:

I have dumpted the FG hack (using an RTX 3080) and starting over with trying each app (separately).

Let me know if the app says you have FG enabled after removing the mod, as I am trying to work out whether the MSFS FG on setting is laying dormant on such setups and causing the app to incorrectly identify that FG is still enabled. If it does do this, please edit your UserCfg.Opt file and change the line DLSSG 1 to DLSSG 0 and tell me if that fixes it. Thanks.

9800X3D | 4090 | 64GB | 2+1TB NVME | 2TB SSD | 2TB HDD | 85/50/43” TVs | Quest 3 | DOF H3 Motion Rig | Buttkicker | T.16000M Flight Kit

MSFS @ 4K Ultra DLSS Performance FG 80 FPS |  VR VDXR Godlike 80Hz SSW | MSFS VR DLSS Quality, Ultra Preset - Windows 11

Acer Nitro 5 | i5-11400H | RTX 3060 6 GB | 32GB DDR4 | 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz | 2 x 512 GB SSD | Windows 11

6 minutes ago, Reset XPDR said:

Let me know if the app says you have FG enabled after removing the mod, as I am trying to work out whether the MSFS FG on setting is laying dormant on such setups and causing the app to incorrectly identify that FG is still enabled. If it does do this, please edit your UserCfg.Opt file and change the line DLSSG 1 to DLSSG 0 and tell me if that fixes it. Thanks.

Wilco

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

The app is fantastic. However I cannot get it to autostart. Th installer is not editing my exe.xml i think because its not in the default location? Could some one kindly post the relevant code so that I can manually edit the exe.xml file myself? 

 

EDIT Never mind, I found where the installer put the code and copied and pasted it into the correct exe.xml.

Edited by jarmstro

12 hours ago, Reset XPDR said:

Is there anything in Windows event viewer under Windows logs Application for the moment the app and icon disappears? If so can you message me any associated error codes and log text for this app. Thanks

I could not find anything in the Windows Event log. However I checked the option to remain "On top" and ever since then the program seems to be working properly even after turning "on top" off again. Let's see how things go tomorrow morning after shutting it off tonight. (0135 local).

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