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I do not have that settings in Samsung. 


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9900K laptop with MXM 2080, 1.78x DL with most of the applicable tweak, the image is just exceptional, a lot sharper than before, really easy to read screens even far away.

But

My FPS is going from 41 to 12 on the Fenix, guess it's just too much for my system

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25 minutes ago, skysurfer said:

I do not have that settings in Samsung. 

I’ll let you know if I can think of something.


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7 minutes ago, bendead said:

9900K laptop with MXM 2080, 1.78x DL with most of the applicable tweak, the image is just exceptional, a lot sharper than before, really easy to read screens even far away.

But

My FPS is going from 41 to 12 on the Fenix, guess it's just too much for my system

Yes higher resolutions put a bigger load on GPU (but also on main thread I’ve found).


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Thank you. I have tired all possible troubleshooting solutions I found in google. The last one I have left is to try to install Studio driver. 


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2 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Yes higher resolutions put a bigger load on GPU (but also on main thread I’ve found).

That's fine, I will soon update to a 7900X3D and 4090, so it will run a bit faster and I will activate all that again.

But kudos to Asobo, on the V1 of MSFS, I would get around 5-10 fps with my settings and current configuration as opposed to 40-42 now

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52 minutes ago, skysurfer said:

Thank you. I have tired all possible troubleshooting solutions I found in google. The last one I have left is to try to install Studio driver. 

That's weird I've had DSR - Factors available as far back as I can remember, back to 2070 Super and think GTX Titan.

I assume you're doing complete clean install of a recent driver?  If you plug in a PC monitor will it appear then?


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I don’t have a PC monitor. I only have a TV. I installed a driver as usually but I used a custom install option. I only installed a driver. I may need to use clean install. I remember I used to have that option but it disappeared. I was surprised too. 


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On 2/26/2024 at 4:25 PM, Farlis said:

By the way I found that the bluriness on the glasscockpits can be alleviated a bit by reducing the DSR Smoothing in the NCP. By default it is set to 33%. I reduced it to 25% and it reduces the smearing effect a little bit.

This did help the smeared glass cockpit moving numbers a bit. Thanks for sharing.


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I finally got around to experiment a little with DSR smoothness. At the moment I've set it to 20% and the image is a lot clearer. Thanks to @Farlis and @mmcmah for suggesting this!

Here's a zoomed-in screenshot from the A300 @ 5461x2880:

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That last image looks great.

Pitty I can not try this with my 3060TI with only 8GB of VRAM.  

For me just using that FG hack with DX12 brings a lot of crashes and DirectIO errors due to that 8 GB Vram is simply not enough 😞
Need to buy a new GPU with at least 16GB VRAM so I can try such small hacks as you guys using here 😞

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@Jovzin the trick does require extra GPU processing power and VRAM, however less so compared to legacy DSR scaling. You could have a go with the render scaling setting in MSFS like @Noel has done. Or try this:

 

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3 hours ago, Jovzin said:

Pitty I can not try this with my 3060TI with only 8GB of VRAM. 

Are you sure? I used to apply a similar trick (back when there was no FG mod). I stopped only because of the glass instrument blurries.


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2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

@Jovzin the trick does require extra GPU processing power and VRAM, however less so compared to legacy DSR scaling. You could have a go with the render scaling setting in MSFS like @Noel has done. Or try this:

 

Thank you sir will try it.

 

2 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

Are you sure? I used to apply a similar trick (back when there was no FG mod). I stopped only because of the glass instrument blurries.

Well from my tests with FG hack and DX12 yeah those 8 gigs are not enough a lot of crashes. Had to return to DX11 without FG hack and no issues.

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On 2/23/2024 at 5:02 PM, Cpt_Piett said:

This process of implementing this is a two-step process that involves 1) updating the DLSS version and 2) changing some settings in Nvidia profile inspector. Besides using DLSS ultra quality, there are other good reasons for updating to the latest DLSS version. Even though MSFS was featured by Nvidia when introducing DLSS3 in September 2022, the DLSS version in MSFS is outdated. Current version in MSFS is 2.4.12.0, if I'm not mistaken. The most recent Nvidia version is however 3.5.10.0. Why download the most recent version? Because newer versions of DLSS usually bring improvements in image quality, performance, or both.

I've followed your guide but don't see ULTRA QUALITY option. The highest is Quality for me. Any ideas? Even with your recommended settings and QUALITY preset. I am noticing blurry text in my cockpit panels on the Fenix A320 compared to just using 3840x2160 with TAA and no DLSS. Performance looks about the same with either method.

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