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How to get the best image quality using DLDSR+DLSS

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1 hour ago, captain420 said:

I've followed your guide but don't see ULTRA QUALITY option. The highest is Quality for me. Any ideas?

First thing is to make sure you have the latest DLSS version installed. This can be checked easily with GPU-Z. Go to advanced-Nvidia DLSS. Then do a scan and all the DLSS .dll files on your PC will be listed, including for MSFS. 

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If you don't have the latest driver, let me know. I might have some other suggestions up my sleeve 😉 

Hmm, that was perhaps not an entirely correct use of the expression:

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If you have something up your sleeve, you have an idea or plan which you have not told anyone about.

 

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  • One benefit of my recent 4090 purchase is that I don't have to keep doing this tweaking anymore, I run my card at 3440x1440 FG TAA and render scale at 130 and the card eats everything I throw at it.

  • This could very well be the case. Anyhow, it's good to have so many options to choose from, but it can also get unnecessarily confusing and complicated. Besides, TAA is quite old now, whereas DLSS is

  • Just be aware that this approach also increases the load on VRAM quiet considerably when using 1.78 or even 2.25 times the native resolution. Might be fine for 4090 users, all others might check that

Here's my results. Not sure why I am getting multiple locations of msfs though.

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I have 2 files called for all those locations above in my GPU-Z. It seems like I already have the latest version installed.

nvngx_dlss.dll (2.4.12.0)

nvngx_dlssg.dll (3.5.10)

And here's my Nvidia Profile Inspector Settings

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In your guide it says useful for people with 4xxx series cards. That probably explains why I don't really see a benefit in this method. I switched back to my normal TAA running at native 4k mode with FG mod enabled, and I find it better in performance and the cockpit displays for me aren't blurry. Also could be from the fact that I don't have the DLSS Ultra Quality option showing up for me.

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53 minutes ago, captain420 said:

In your guide it says useful for people with 4xxx series cards. That probably explains why I don't really see a benefit in this method. I switched back to my normal TAA running at native 4k mode with FG mod enabled, and I find it better in performance and the cockpit displays for me aren't blurry. Also could be from the fact that I don't have the DLSS Ultra Quality option showing up for me.

For DLSS Ultra quality, try to install newest nvngx_dlss.dll (3.5.10). 

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14 minutes ago, xenonsk said:

For DLSS Ultra quality, try to install newest nvngx_dlss.dll (3.5.10). 

I have 2 files called nvngx_dlssg.dll and nvngx_dlss.dll. One of them is 3.5.10 already and the other is 2.4.12.0. The dll file i downloaded in the 1st page only gave me nvgx_dllsg.dll (3.5.10). Where do I find the latest version of nvngx_dlss.dll?

I'm assuming that since I am using the FG mod, that MSFS will default to using nvngx_dlssg.dll. Which is the FG version of the DLL. If so then I am already running the latest version.

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Okay now I finally get the option. That was the problem. I had to update the file called nvngx_dlss.dll to the latest version. I still find I get better performance and graphics quality with my old setting of TAA and resolution of 3840x2160 with FG Mod and MSFS AutoFPS mod running.

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In case this wasn't obvious to everyone (it wasn't to me), updating your Nvidia drivers will reset the changes that you have made through Profile Inspector. I only realized it when I was seeing things that didn't look right in the sim!

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3 hours ago, mmcmah said:

In case this wasn't obvious to everyone (it wasn't to me), updating your Nvidia drivers will reset the changes that you have made through Profile Inspector. I only realized it when I was seeing things that didn't look right in the sim!

I've got a MSFS / Nvidia driver pre-update procedure™ that someone might find useful:

Before MSFS update:

  • delete .dat files in %localAppData%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\SceneryIndexes

  • delete Content.xml and ROLLINGCACHE.CCC in %localAppData%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache

  • delete shader cache (see below)

  • update MSFS

Before Nvidia driver update:

  • Inspector: export profile(s)

  • disable shader cache in NCP

  • reboot in safe mode, delete:

    • %userProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache

    • %localAppData%\NVIDIA\GLCache

    • %localAppData%\D3DSCache

  • update Nvidia driver

  • enable shader cache 

  • Inspector: import profile(s)

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40 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I've got a MSFS / Nvidia driver pre-update procedure™ that someone might find useful:

Before MSFS update:

  • delete .dat files in %localAppData%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\SceneryIndexes

  • delete Content.xml and ROLLINGCACHE.CCC in %localAppData%\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache

  • delete shader cache (see below)

  • update MSFS

Before Nvidia driver update:

  • Inspector: export profile(s)

  • disable shader cache in NCP

  • reboot in safe mode, delete:

    • %userProfile%\AppData\LocalLow\NVIDIA\PerDriverVersion\DXCache

    • %localAppData%\NVIDIA\GLCache

    • %localAppData%\D3DSCache

  • update Nvidia driver

  • enable shader cache 

  • Inspector: import profile(s)

This should be a sticky somewhere

Been reading quite a bit and I cant seem to find a conclusive answer so I have a few questions. I have the FG 0.90 (universal) version installed and its working absolutely like a charm with my 11GB 2080Ti, but as a curious person I would like to try the DLSS Ultra Quality setting out together with the FG mod. From what I have been reading I should be good to go by updating my two DLSS files+download NVI and adjusting the custom profile afterwards (the NVNGX_DLSS.dll should already be updated from before from what I remember). This is were I get a little bit unsure since I have just heard many times that the DLSSG file only is relevant for 4000 series cards. 

Then there is all the different versions of the FG Mod that confuses me. 0.90 version if using DLSSTweaks etc. If anyone could just guide me in the right direction here I should be good to go since luckily I know my way around the sim and tweaking it from time to time.

Benjamin Hennes

Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Strix 2080Ti 11GB | 32GB DDR5 | 1TB SSD | Windows 11 Home
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On 3/12/2024 at 1:38 AM, Cpt_Piett said:

I've got a MSFS / Nvidia driver pre-update procedure™ that someone might find useful:

Jeez, OCD much? 😉

How about just clicking "Install" and let the installer do the rest? 😄

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2 hours ago, Farlis said:

Jeez, OCD much? 😉

How about just clicking "Install" and let the installer do the rest? 😄

Haha 🙂 That would indeed be... easier. 

And btw @Farlis, for being such a Serious SImmer™, you actually have a great sense of humour. So I guess the two aren't mutually exclusive 😉

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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1 hour ago, Benjamin H said:

Been reading quite a bit and I cant seem to find a conclusive answer so I have a few questions. I have the FG 0.90 (universal) version installed and its working absolutely like a charm with my 11GB 2080Ti, but as a curious person I would like to try the DLSS Ultra Quality setting out together with the FG mod. From what I have been reading I should be good to go by updating my two DLSS files+download NVI and adjusting the custom profile afterwards (the NVNGX_DLSS.dll should already be updated from before from what I remember). This is were I get a little bit unsure since I have just heard many times that the DLSSG file only is relevant for 4000 series cards. 

Then there is all the different versions of the FG Mod that confuses me. 0.90 version if using DLSSTweaks etc. If anyone could just guide me in the right direction here I should be good to go since luckily I know my way around the sim and tweaking it from time to time.

nvngx_dlssg.dll is meant for RTX40-series cards, yes. So just get the non-FG version nvngx_dlss.dll. I'm not familiar with the FG mod though. I don't think it should affect DLSS settings in MSFS menu though. 

Anyway, after replacing the .dll with the updated one, it's important to:

  1. use the latest inspector version on github 
  2. get the DLSS extra settings - described here, download here then paste contents of .zip into inspector folder

The you should get the extra settings in inspector under global profile - 5 common:

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Edited by Cpt_Piett

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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