5 minutes ago, Danthepilot77 said:

So its better to use the FG mod with a 4000 series GPU that has DLSS and Frame Gen? Never knew that

What? I don't have a 4000 series GPU.

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I think most simmers have the same opinion as you. I’m also a graphics quality aficionado, and find that upscaling the resolution using DLDSR then adding DLSS in ultra quality gives an even better image quality than TAA in 4K.
 

 

Really? But what about the blurry displays in the cockpit?

1 hour ago, captain420 said:

Really? But what about the blurry displays in the cockpit?

Razor sharp displays, no ghosting. 

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Does it beat TAA RS 160 do you think?

I'll test it and report back. 

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

Wow, and you get better performance than TAA and it looks sharper? Can you please share your settings on exactly what I need to do? I've never DLSDR+DLSS before. Would love to give it a try and see how it will look on my 55" 4K Samsung TV.

38 minutes ago, captain420 said:

Wow, and you get better performance than TAA and it looks sharper?

Actually, I'm testing 4K TAA with 160 render scaling right now. I honestly think DLSS upscaled to "5K" looks better. AND - performance is much worse using TAA - around 60 fps vs 80+ fps using DLDSR+DLSS. I'll post some average values comparing the two in a moment. 

38 minutes ago, captain420 said:

Can you please share your settings on exactly what I need to do? I've never DLSDR+DLSS before. Would love to give it a try and see how it will look on my 55" 4K Samsung TV.

I wrote a little guide on it. Have a look and just PM me if you have any questions! Also you might find my settings interesting. 

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

4 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Actually, I'm testing 4K TAA with 160 render scaling right now. I honestly think DLSS upscaled to "5K" looks better. AND - performance is much worse using TAA - around 60 fps vs 80+ fps using DLDSR+DLSS. I'll post some average values comparing the two in a moment. 

I wrote a little guide on it. Have a look and just PM me if you have any questions! Also you might find my settings interesting. 

Awesome, I will most definitely give this a try and see how it compares to my current settings! Thank you very much!

41 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I'll post some average values comparing the two in a moment. 

                             4K TAA RS 160 || 5K DLSS DLDSR

Avg fps                      60                       80

Avg GPU load        100%                    98%

Avg GPU temp         71                        70

The difference in image quality is subtle, but I find that DLSS has more advanced antialiasing and reduces shimmering, which especially can be seen on objects and trees in the distance. Since most people are interested in cockpit displays however, here's a comparison: 

4K TAA RS 160

5K DLSS DLDSR

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

2 hours ago, captain420 said:

What? I don't have a 4000 series GPU.

You can use the FG mod with your 3090.

1 minute ago, Cpt_Piett said:

You can use the FG mod with your 3090.

I know, which is what I stated. But he says otherwise I think.

4 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I know, which is what I stated. But he says otherwise I think.

Sorry, I misinterpreted you. Doing too many things at once 😅

3 hours ago, Danthepilot77 said:

So its better to use the FG mod with a 4000 series GPU that has DLSS and Frame Gen? Never knew that

If you have a 4000 series GPU you don't need/want the FG mod.  You can run FG "natively" or you know what I mean.

I think he has a 3090 card, that's why he's running the FG mod.

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 DLDSR

What is "DLDSR" and where is this set?

Thank you all for your very helpful and informative feedback regarding this topic. I have certainly learnt a lot from this forum thread.

I will try some of your suggestions on my recently upgraded system and also reply soon to the question raised earlier re: difference in fps I have noticed between my old 2080 8gb i7-8700k system and recently upgraded 4070 super 12gb Ryzen 7 7800 X3D system.

I tried something new today, my monitor has three factory settings for refresh rate, 60 -100 and 144hz, so I first tried turn the refresh rate down from 144hz to 100hz and saw that my GPU load was 20% lower with the same performance as before, and at a couple degrees cooler as well which was very promising, so I will keep my monitor at 100hz and put the 20% gain on more Rendering Scale instead.

I tried 60hz as well, but then I began to see some degradations, native 30fps is not enough to achieve the smoothness I prefer with or without FG in my opinion.

Edited March 6, 20242 yr by Ixoye

10 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I tried something new today, my monitor has three factory settings for refresh rate, 60 -100 and 144hz, so I first tried turn the refresh rate down from 144hz to 100hz and saw that my GPU load was 20% lower with the same performance as before, and at a couple degrees cooler as well which was very promising, so I will keep my monitor at 100hz and put the 20% gain on more Rendering Scale instead.

I tried 60hz as well, but then I began to see some degradations, native 30fps is not enough to achieve the smoothness I prefer with or without FG in my opinion.

I run my TV @100Hz for the exact same reason you mentioned, if I keep fps unlocked and with a 120Hz refresh rate my GPU will be pegged at 100% pretty much all the time which is completely unnecessary

Try locking the fps to 80 using RTSS + front edge sync, the smoothness is still stellar and there will even more GPU headroom. I am running this way with my render scale at 110 and it is a superb experience.