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How to wreck performance in MSFS with a decent rig

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51 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Aaaaaaand MSFS just CTD'd with a silly GPU error message. 

@sonny147, just saw this in your sig:

😅

yes i cant have all this hot Hitech stuff  without a nice little cooling fan for me and my pc right , £30 from amazon ( the devil) lol

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1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

there's almost 100 aircraft around me, so that could be the reason. 

that sounds reasonable. who needs 100 aircraft around you anyway? AI needs to be heavily optimised. 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Warning: I'll go ballistic if someone tells me the C172 service ceiling is 14,000 feet

 

above Zuidplaspolder in the Netherlands the max service ceiling is: 13,997.8 feet to be precise. "The lowest point in the Netherlands is Zuidplaspolder, located in the province of South Holland. It has an elevation of 6.76 meters (22.2 feet) below sea level"

https://aboutthenetherlands.com/is-the-netherlands-the-flattest-country-in-the-world/

 

above Badwater basin, Death Valley, the service ceiling is even lower at only 13,718 feet (282 ft below sea level)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badwater_Basin

 

and lowest ever: 12,642 feet over Dead Sea, Jordan/Israel - 1.358 feet below sea level

https://www.worldatlas.com/geography/the-10-lowest-places-on-earth.html

 

Now how do you get up to 14,000 ft msl when the C172 has no climb power left at those altitudes on hot summer days and low air pressure when pressure altitude can easily be 1.000 -2.000 ft below density altitude without stalling? happened to me once on a hot summer day, trying to outclimb a quickly rising dangerous looking cumulonimbus cloud system below and beside me, not over dead sea though.💀

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_altitude

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

But from what I've read, the red chips are even better for MSFS.

you read that right. one cool chip my 7800x3D

normally around 65-75 degrees celsius, @ 20 Watts. air cooled, single fan.

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

1 hour ago, sonny147 said:

yes i cant have all this hot Hitech stuff  without a nice little cooling fan for me and my pc right , £30 from amazon ( the devil) lol

I can imagine neck scarf blowing in the wind as you land the 1916 Nieuport 17 !

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Heck, on my PC 30 FPS anywhere is a victory.

Jack Sawyer

2 minutes ago, Jack_Sawyer said:

on my PC 30 FPS anywhere is a victory.

lucky man, with option to increase 3-4 times.

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

lucky man, with option to increase 3-4 times.

It's an old PC, wish I could buy a new one.  Mostly i get like 23 FPS, some airports a lot less but I still have fun with the PMDG 737 and A2A.

Jack Sawyer

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10 hours ago, turbomax said:

that sounds reasonable. who needs 100 aircraft around you anyway? AI needs to be heavily optimised. 

Good point. I'm trying to see which one is best - AIG vs FSLTL - when it comes to performance. But the settings are so different, and apples to apples comparison is near impossible. 

But yeah, 100 aircraft in vicinity is way too much for poor mainthread, blue or red! 

7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Good point. I'm trying to see which one is best - AIG vs FSLTL - when it comes to performance. But the settings are so different, and apples to apples comparison is near impossible. 

But yeah, 100 aircraft in vicinity is way too much for poor mainthread, blue or red! 

That is something that AIG TC really lack, a proper traffic limiter, like the one we had in P3D with AI Companion. If I fly to high density airport I use FSLTL, if not I normally use AIG TC. But my limit is 50 AI AC maximum.

Ramon De Valencia

AMD 9950X3D / 64GB DDR5 6000MHz / RTX 5090 / 1200 watt PSU

MSFS 2020 and 2024

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On 3/8/2024 at 5:18 PM, abrams_tank said:

I wonder if other people followed the settings of that video and if they have a powerful top of the line computer similar to the one in the video, if they can get 200 FPS too at 4K. The one thing I see in that video is that the user set NVidia DLSS Super Resolution to "Performance." For the rest of the settings, they look like they were set to Ultra. But I can't repeat the same test anyways, I have nowhere near the computer as that person that got 200 FPS at 4K in the video.

Well, I just discovered that with the new AutoFPS build, it's possible to get ridiculously high FPS (not that I need it - my monitor's max refresh rate is 120Hz, lol). Btw not really sure which video you referred to - could it be this one

It's not quite FPS 200 (who needs that anyway?), but 153 at a major 3rd party hub should be good enough!

(4K DLSS ultra quality, most settings ultra/max, Classic C172 parked at gate, no AI traffic, on latest AutoFPS test version with new Auto Target FPS feature): 

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I highly recommend getting latest test version, especially for those who are not happy with FPS. If you do, please post your findings in the AutoFPS thread. The developer @Reset XPDR will most certainly appreciate it if you do 😄 

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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3 hours ago, ttbq1 said:

That is something that AIG TC really lack, a proper traffic limiter, like the one we had in P3D with AI Companion. If I fly to high density airport I use FSLTL, if not I normally use AIG TC. But my limit is 50 AI AC maximum.

Yeah, I'm back on FSLTL today. AIGTC even at 50% was too heavy on performance. I've got the following set in FSLTL: 

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Max Active IFR Aircraft (0=disabled): 30

Additional Airline Parked Aircraft (0=disabled / 10=max): 3 (max of 30 aircraft per airport)

Additional GA Parked Aircraft (0=disabled / 10=max): 3 (max of 30 aircraft per airport)

Max Radius to Inject Airborne Aircraft (25-150km): 50

Max Radius to Inject Ground Aircraft (10-150km): 50

Blocked Aircraft Removal Time : 120 seconds

Also I'm using AIGround and AIFlow, but I'm confused as to what the optimal settings are. 

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

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CYFB Iqaluit International Airport (WU XI Canada bespoke airport)

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7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5

On 3/8/2024 at 3:25 PM, cianpars said:

Even worse, I had a ZX80.

I had first the 16K Spectrum and later "hte powerhouse" 48K Spectrum..

 

 

Petteri Pulkkinen

EFNU, Finland

1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Well, I just discovered that with the new AutoFPS build, it's possible to get ridiculously high FPS (not that I need it - my monitor's max refresh rate is 120Hz, lol). Btw not really sure which video you referred to - could it be this one

It's not quite FPS 200 (who needs that anyway?), but 153 at a major 3rd party hub should be good enough!

(4K DLSS ultra quality, most settings ultra/max, Classic C172 parked at gate, no AI traffic, on latest AutoFPS test version with new Auto Target FPS feature): 

I highly recommend getting latest test version, especially for those who are not happy with FPS. If you do, please post your findings in the AutoFPS thread. The developer @Reset XPDR will most certainly appreciate it if you do 😄 

Wow, 153 FPS at a major hub! Is this a handcrafted airport? 153 FPS, without AI, at a handcrafted airport (even an Asobo handcrafted airport) at 4K Ultra is still very, very, good FPS.

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i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM

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