May 15, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, garlicbread11 said: Would be good if you could buy premium voice sets, once owned the characters of owned premium voices would be free. What you are in fact asking for is voice models like CereProc offer and which can be used offline. Take note though that a single voice costs something like 25 to 30 bucks or so. BATC has around 200 voices available in all kinds of accents. I am sure CereProc or similar voices don't have that many accents (and even voices but I'm not sure) and in order to get varied ATC all over the world you'd have to buy around 30 to 90 voices which would cost you 900 to 2.700 bucks. You can buy a LOT of Premium top ups for that money. You also won't have to install voices etc. Of course if you wouldn't mind just having 3 or 4 voices doing all the talking then it might become intersting... But I don't think this is on BATC's roadmap.
May 15, 20242 yr Just now, tup61 said: I am sure CereProc or similar voices don't have that many accents (and even voices but I'm not sure) No, they are few and very costly and on the level of the BATC basic voices, far off from premium level. Have been using 3 of them for years with P2ATC, but they get old really quick. I love the immersion created by BATC from having that *many* different voices, let alone the accents. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
May 15, 20242 yr The inability to choose a runway continues to be my biggest issue with this program. I don't even see on their Discord the devs have commented on it yet.
May 15, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, BrammyH said: The inability to choose a runway continues to be my biggest issue with this program. I don't even see on their Discord the devs have commented on it yet. BeyondATC also ignores the landing runway I chose in my flight plan on SimBrief. But I guess it is supposed to be that way, because the landing runway is based on the winds prevalent at the time. Too bad I can't force BeyondATC to use the landing runway I chose in SimBrief, because I like to practice a specific approach, regardless of the winds (especially because there is no traffic injection yet). Oh well. Edited May 15, 20242 yr by abrams_tank i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
May 15, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: BeyondATC also ignores the landing runway I chose in my flight plan on SimBrief. But I guess it is supposed to be that way, because the landing runway is based on the winds prevalent at the time. It's too literal for sure. Yesterday flying into KCHS, both runways were active in real world. BATC wanted me on the RNAV; not the ILS.
May 15, 20242 yr The challenge with purely wind based runways is that it doesn’t take into account operational thresholds that airports may have to change runways. As an example, CYYZ Toronto will always use east/west runways as much as possible, up to a pretty high crosswind component because there are three E-W runways and only two N-S runways. So even if the winds favour the N-S runways, it has to be a pretty strong wind before they make that switch. Just one case out of many but it illustrates why some kind of flexibility is needed. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
May 15, 20242 yr BATC does use winds and specific airport operations to determine the active runway, so it might give a tailwind runway in low wind if the airport has a preferential runway system in place (like here in EDDF or @regis9 in CYYZ). It can also differentiate between runways used primariliy for landing or for takeoff (like here in EDDF). It's also planned (in the future) to differentiate further by the time of day, if airport operations depend on that. Overall this should give pretty plausible runways based on the data and basically what one could expect in real life. However that doesn't mean it will be exactly the same as on FR24 in real life, because those decisions in real life use even more factors (curfews, noise abatement, weather forecast, traffic amount etc.). For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
May 15, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: BATC does use winds and specific airport operations to determine the active runway, The one I ran into was flying out of KBTV (Burlington, Vermont). It wanted me to take off from a 4000' runway in an a320. Last night, I could deal with the RNAV approach into Charleston, SC, but would have preferred the ILS. Also, if we are in weather conditions I'd want the ILS anyway. Something like FSHUD where I can choose the runway is needed.
May 15, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, BrammyH said: I could deal with the RNAV approach into Charleston, SC, but would have preferred the ILS. No one will yell at you if you acknowledge the RNAV approach but actually use the ILS. 😉
May 15, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, BrammyH said: The one I ran into was flying out of KBTV (Burlington, Vermont). It wanted me to take off from a 4000' runway in an a320. Last night, I could deal with the RNAV approach into Charleston, SC, but would have preferred the ILS. Also, if we are in weather conditions I'd want the ILS anyway. Something like FSHUD where I can choose the runway is needed. With PF3 I can always chose the takeoff and landing runway, if I don't like the runway I was assigned. I wouldn't want to use an ATC program where I was forced to use a runway, I didn't like.
May 15, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, tup61 said: No one will yell at you if you acknowledge the RNAV approach but actually use the ILS. 😉 Different runway. It gave me RNAV on Runway 21. ILS was Runway 15.
May 15, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, tup61 said: No one will yell at you if you acknowledge the RNAV approach but actually use the ILS. 😉 When BeyondATC wasn't willing to give me the runway that I filed in SimBrief, I just shut BeyondATC down and landed on my SimBrief filed runway anyways 🤣 i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
May 15, 20242 yr 18 minutes ago, abrams_tank said: When BeyondATC wasn't willing to give me the runway that I filed in SimBrief, I just shut BeyondATC down and landed on my SimBrief filed runway anyways 🤣 Great ATC program. 😉
May 15, 20242 yr 4 hours ago, BrammyH said: The inability to choose a runway continues to be my biggest issue with this program. I don't even see on their Discord the devs have commented on it yet. This would be SO easy to implement. Just a button “Force Simbrief Runway Selection.” EddieKABQ
May 15, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, haskell said: This would be SO easy to implement. Just a button “Force Simbrief Runway Selection.” A better solution would be a way to select the desired runway out of a list of the runways, with a mouse click. Edited May 15, 20242 yr by Bobsk8
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