2 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

Using TLOD 200 and PSXT with AIG models and no problems, 70 fps at Inibuilds EGLL.

Screenshot or it didn't happen 🤣

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I just don't want to have a blurry runway on final approach. I'm interested in how other people deal with being mainthread-limited. 

Perfect visuals are more important than having every single hangar and airport terminal filled with AI planes. So reducing AI planes is better. But not the ship AI traffic. Ships are important to create interesting and alive beaches.

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I just don't want to have a blurry runway on final approach. I'm interested in how other people deal with being mainthread-limited. 

Perfect visuals are more important than having every single hangar and airport terminal filled with AI planes. So reducing AI planes is better. But not the ship AI traffic. Ships are important to create interesting and alive beaches.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

AI planes were very important to me in P3D, but so far I have been quite happy without them in MSFS. I think this is partly because I am worried that the performance hit on my mediocre PC will be way too much (I do not do AI planes in half measures; it is 100% or nothing at all), and also because I am not sure whether they will move convincingly when on the ground and on departure/landing. In addition, the ATC system in MSFS makes me hesitant to take the plunge. The only time that I use ATC at the moment is when the tower (sometimes) contacts me on departure, and that brief interaction does not exactly inspire me. It sounds less realistic to me than the ATC interaction in P3D.

I guess the only way to test this is to activate the AI planes, but I am really enjoying the freedom of movement when flying in and out of the 80+ airports that I use at the moment. I do not have to worry about AI planes "getting in the way" when on final approach (although I have no problem with having to wait in line for departure), and the static aircraft option does a pretty good job of making airports look busy. I am also really enjoying looking at the scenery during my flights. It really is outstanding, even though I use full autogen mode.

Get FsHud with say 5 or 10 active planes and 20,30 parked. Absolute game changer in terms of immersion, even with small numbers of aircraft.  

Edited June 28, 20241 yr by Langeveldt

11 minutes ago, JetCat said:

Perfect visuals are more important than having every single hangar and airport terminal filled with AI planes. So reducing AI planes is better. But not the ship AI traffic. Ships are important to create interesting and alive beaches.

...and we'll get ships in 2024, right? I think they've entered a partnership with Henrik Nielsen / GAIST. 

1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

AI is the the one thing that hits my performance the most.

It absolutely hammers the main thread. Just tested at iniBuilds EGLL with AIG traffic controller at 50% - lost more than 30fps. 

Edited June 28, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

36 minutes ago, JetCat said:

reducing AI planes is better. But not the ship AI traffic. Ships are important to create interesting and alive beaches.

airplanes are important to create interestings and alive airports. But not the ship AI traffic.

besides: ATC controls and communicates with  AI airplane traffic, but not with the ship AI traffic.

35 minutes ago, Langeveldt said:

Get FsHud with say 5 or 10 active planes and 20,30 parked. Absolute game changer in terms of immersion, even with small numbers of aircraft.  

The fshud airplanes are injected and are not controlled by msfs? 

does FShud also include general aviation traffic, and if not is there any tool that does?

Edited June 28, 20241 yr by turbomax

Fshud has a performance balancer, you set your target fps, and fshud adds/remove ai aircraft dynamically.

sounds very useful, have to look further into fshud.

at the moment I’m using fstl with pilot2 atc.

i know that voxatc, beyond atc and sayintention are in early access / are coming.

 

Edited June 28, 20241 yr by Merawen

28 minutes ago, Merawen said:

Fshud has a performance balancer, you set your target fps, and fshud adds/remove ai aircraft dynamically.

sounds very useful, have to look further into fshud.

at the moment I’m using fstl with pilot2 atc.

i know that voxatc, beyond atc and sayintention are in early access / are coming.

 

They are injected by MSFS.

I find the performance balancer irritating and doesn't really do the job. Just deletes loads of planes, then stutters, adds a load of planes.

Better to have a small amount of very functional traffic communicating and working with ATC and being well spaced out IMO.  

3 hours ago, Noel said:

Plus, using the 4090's ability to run render scale at 160 and AMD FidelityFX at 200 makes thinks sharp enough.

I picked this sentence to quote, as for me, the biggest drawback of TLOD 50* is that the runway is blurry. Other than this, there’s not many reasons having a higher TLOD at lower altitude. 

3 hours ago, Noel said:

I have to live with a native rate around 40-45fps, which isn't bad but means the main thread is working harder than it could.

I aim for a non-FG FPS of 30 or a little higher. That’s pretty much as high I as I can go at those mega-airports with a “reasonable” traffic level.

*I’ve set AutoFPS to 50 below 1000ft

Edited June 28, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

For me both are important but if i ever have to adjust something down its going to be the traffic.

7 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

Voted "don't care". Using TLOD 200 and PSXT with AIG models and no problems, 70 fps at Inibuilds EGLL.

Yeah, I found that using PSXT is not as taxing on the CPU as internal AI traffic. I assume because it simply injects the models whereas the internal model calculates a path for them.

Neither are issues for me so BUMP.

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TLOD. All the way. It's especially obnoxious in VR, when I can't read the taxiway signs from the cockpit unless I drop a wheel into the grass.