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New GPU for MSFS 2020

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I have a Intel i7 8700k and the GTX 1080 ti. Monitor ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34? Curved HDR Monitor, WQHD (3440x1440), 165Hz, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur, FreeSync Premium, Eye Care, DisplayPort HDMI USB, Height Adjustable, DisplayHDR 400

I am looking to upgrade the GPU to an RTX 3060 Ti.

Would that be worth it at a cost of $600 with this system? Should I see better FPS?

Would welcome your comments!

Your processor will be a bottleneck for a 3060ti so you will not see a huge improvement IMO.  Might look at upgrading the CPU first if anything.

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Eric

i9-12900k, RTX 5070ti OC, 32GB ddr5 5600 RAM, 2TB 980 Pro SSD, Titan 240RX AIO, Samsung CRG90 49", Win 11

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But on the web site "PC build" after the test it gives me this:

Intel Core i7-8700K is too weak for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti on 3440 × 1440 pixels screen resolution for Microsoft Flight Simulator.

 

This configuration has 14.7% of processor bottleneck .

I know the CPU is not perfect but 14.7 % bottleneck does not seam to high at the above mention resolution.

 Maybe I should go for the RTX 3060 instead. The test shows .8% bottleneck.

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Don't fall into this bottleneck cr&*.  We are not trying to race our systems for the best numbers out there but simply want a better running sim.  There's always a "bottleneck" somewhere!  I had the exact same CPU as you and went from a gtx1080 to a rtx2080ti and finally to a rtx4080 super and each jump I saw a smoother running sim.  I'm sure I was "bottlenecked" but who gives a rats a#$.  The simulator ran better with each jump which is all I cared about.  I finally just broke down and got myself a Ryzen 7800 x3d.  Main reason being that I just dropped a boatload on a Pimax Crystal light and wanted the CPU boost for that.  The 8700K is one hell of a chip and was running fine right up to the point I upgraded.  I think the next GPU jump would have done her in and to be honest, I did not see the same jump in performance going to the new CPU that I saw when I went to the 4080.  Lastly, consider how close we are to the next generation of video cards (not saying don't do it).

LouP

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Easy, turn on dev mode and FPS counter and TEST: if you are mostly in «limited by main thread» scenarios, a GPU update will help you nothing.

To be honest, the only thing that would make kinda sense with this CPU is either using the Frame gen mod or go for a RTX 4000 series card to use native FG. Problem: your 1080Ti has 11GB VRAM, so everything below a 4060ti with 16GB or a 4070 with 12GB would actually be a downgrade...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

You would make far better gains with a 4000 series GPU, as you can enable Frame Generation. I would not buy a 3060 Ti today.

Especially not at $600.

You can get a 4070 Super for $600 at Microcenter. 
If you can't find one near you, you should be able to pick up a 4060 Ti or 4070 for even less than that.

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AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S

A few considerations ..

You have to identify (for the purposes of the sim) what is the performance limiter. Whether its the gpu or cpu.  My non educated guess its a little of both and i personally would be more inclined to upgrade the platform (cpu/mb/ram/nvme) first and do the gpu last after a few more months of saving but im sure others have a differing opinion.

Yes frame rate is important  but for the purposes of this sim if there is something not quite right with the fundamentals of your pc platform no amount of high end gpu power is going to fix your issues.

As @AnkH stated .. put the sim in dev mode and see if the graph is showing predominantly "mainthread limited" in red

I would also go one step further and install afterburner/rtss and check gpu and vram usage in resource heavy areas of the sim. If you need help setting that up .. ask around there are enough people here that should be able to point you in the correct direction although different paths are taken to get to the final destination :).

 

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AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2

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Very difficult nowadays, don't know what's coming and when...Nvidia RTX5080 or 5090? With AMD, no clue at all. Currently using an RTX3080 which is not cutting it...

I'm in the market for a new GPU too...Darryl

22 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

You would make far better gains with a 4000 series GPU, as you can enable Frame Generation. I would not buy a 3060 Ti today.

Especially not at $600.

You can get a 4070 Super for $600 at Microcenter. 
If you can't find one near you, you should be able to pick up a 4060 Ti or 4070 for even less than that.

I’ve an i7 11700k and had a GTX1080ti GPU. Not saying this is the same as your case but I decided to upgrade to a 4070 ti super £760 in a deal in UK) rather than a 3xxxx. My CPU is definitely a bottleneck but - my performance is day and night.

Framerates are the broadly the same, but being a 4xxx series card I can use DLSS and FG. For me (with a GSync monitor) this has been a good choice as PG cities are rarely a problem now and my taxi and final approaches into the usual suspects are really smooth stutters of any kind v rarely (eg Fenix A320 into EDDF or EGKK, PMDG 738 into KSEA etc). 
Hope this helps - good luck.

2 hours ago, rolly said:

I have a Intel i7 8700k and the GTX 1080 ti. Monitor ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34? Curved HDR Monitor, WQHD (3440x1440), 165Hz, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur, FreeSync Premium, Eye Care, DisplayPort HDMI USB, Height Adjustable, DisplayHDR 400

I am looking to upgrade the GPU to an RTX 3060 Ti.

Would that be worth it at a cost of $600 with this system? Should I see better FPS?

Would welcome your comments!

I have an i7-8700k and a 3060ti, 32 GB of RAM, NVMe drives, Win10 Pro, and a Dell 27" LED QHD G-SYNC Monitor - S2716DGR.  The 3060ti cost me $250 used on eBay. No complaints running MSFS (Just Flight's Arrows, Flysimware's C414, Just Flights FSTraffic, FSRealistic, payware avionics, Seafront and GAIST boats, and about 25 GB of stuff in the community folder), DCS (I downgraded to just using a $30 Logitech Extreme 3D joystick if you can imagine that working with the A-10C) and WARNO. But then I'm in a personal campaign to minimize, getting rid of stuff, and keeping things as simple as possible using the very bare necessities (as in KISS principle - Wikipedia).  I'm not done yet, not until everything just runs using a laptop and a gamepad. 🙂

To borrow a quote: "don't cross the stream to get water". 

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

Your processor will be a huge bottleneck for a 3060ti so you will not see any improvement with a new GPU.  Might look at upgrading the CPU first if anything.

Well, thank you all for your feed back!!

I know I'm CPU is limited by main thread!! After spending $5000 on this system 5 years ago, I don't want to spend another 5 to $7000 again! (HURTS!)

That is why I was thinking about the GPU upgrade.$500 versus $5000! Hard to decide when you are retired!!

RTX 4070 super sounds good for the ability to use DLSS and frame generation, but would really work with this CPU?

Anyway thanks again!!

 

48 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

don't know what's coming and when...Nvidia RTX5080 or 5090?

... and at what price.... These new 5000 series cards might be priced well north of the current 4000 series.

GregH

Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor

52 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

don't know what's coming and when...Nvidia RTX5080 or 5090?

... and at what price...

 

2 minutes ago, rolly said:

but would really work with this CPU?

Yes. Plus you will have a great GPU if you decide to upgrade the CPU later. Also look at the 4070Ti Super. Not a lot more money than the 4070 - but a fair bit better. 

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GregH

Intel Core i7 14700K / Palit RTX4070Ti Super OC / Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 MHz / MSI Z790 M/board / Corsair NVMe 9500 read, 8500 write / Corsair PSU1200W / CH Products Yoke, Pedals & Quad; Airbus Side Stick, Airbus Quadrant / TrackIR, 32” 4K 144hz 1ms Monitor

22 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

You would make far better gains with a 4000 series GPU, as you can enable Frame Generation. I would not buy a 3060 Ti today.

Especially not at $600.

You can get a 4070 Super for $600 at Microcenter. 
If you can't find one near you, you should be able to pick up a 4060 Ti or 4070 for even less than that.

I’ve an i7 11700k and had a GTX1080ti GPU. Not saying this is the same as your case but I decided to upgrade to a 4070 ti super £760 in a deal in UK) rather than a 3xxxx. My CPU is definitely a bottleneck but - my performance is day and night.

Framerates are the broadly the same, but being a 4xxx series card I can use DLSS and FG. For me (with a GSync monitor) this has been a good choice as PG cities are rarely a problem now and my taxi and final approaches into the usual suspects are really smooth stutters of any kind v rarely (eg Fenix A320 into EDDF or EGKK, PMDG 738 into KSEA etc). 
Hope this helps - good luck.

2 hours ago, rolly said:

Maybe I should go for the RTX 3060 instead. The test shows .8% bottleneck.

If you do get the RTX 3060 get the 3060ti instead. I have it because it was the only RTX small and short enough to fit in my micro-ATX case. Just be aware that it's noisy when playing graphic extensive games such as MSFS. It's quiet on work stuff though. I don't know why you're quoting $500 when you can buy the same thing for much much less than that in Amazon and even cheaper on eBay (not so risky since it's cheap).

In your system (again, the same as what I have), upgrading the CPU means you'll have to also have to upgrade the motherboard and that's just to start with...

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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