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Boeing Starliner stuck in space

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1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

Zillions of people would love to be on the station for 8 days. 8 months?  Not so much.

That's almost 9 months.

Which reminds me of a joke.  When is Mother's Day?
Answer: 9 months after Father's Day.

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  • This wouldn't be a pre agreed routine flight though. It's not a case of "hop on this one guys." It would be the US saying, "please Mr Putin, our spaceship is a failure, can you rescue our crew, p

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On 8/9/2024 at 7:06 AM, HiFlyer said:

Zillions of people would love to be on the station for 8 days. 8 months?  Not so much.

Long as there's enough food and something to do... why not? Besides, can't beat the Views!

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21 hours ago, martin-w said:
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“It seems that there are decision-makers at Nasa who are unconvinced that a safe return can be guaranteed,” he said.

Boeing has said repeatedly that it has full confidence that Starliner can bring the two astronauts safely home.

NASA has concerns over safety, as they should.  Boeing says it's fine, it'll be fine.  Unfortunately, given Boeing's track record in recent years, I'd have concerns too.

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On the plus side, the amount of time they would have been up there is roughly equivalent to the length of one way of a Mars mission..... 

Something to think about? 🤔

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31 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

On the plus side, the amount of time they would have been up there is roughly equivalent to the length of one way of a Mars mission..... 

Something to think about? 🤔

 

Longest stay on the ISS is almost a year. Radiation exposure is more the issue with a Mars trip, I would think.

Yep.

NASA decision is that they will come home in Feb 2025 with crew 9. Starliner will come home uncrewed.

 

 

 

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Today NASA formally announced that they're asking SpaceX to use its crew Dragon spacecraft to bring the 2 astronauts back to Earth.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/its-official-nasa-calls-on-crew-dragon-to-rescue-the-starliner-astronauts/

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They could have come home on the Dragon that's already there. Trouble is there would be six onboard when it's desighned for four. And the spacesuits aren't compatible with Dragon so they would be without suits. Obviously risky.

So crew 9 Dragon it is.

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13 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

Is anyone really surprised?

Not me.

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Now I'm curious about Boeing stock price. That's a big PR impact for them. 

For reference, last Friday BA stock was $174.96. Let the bloodbath begin 🍿

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23 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

Now I'm curious about Boeing stock price. That's a big PR impact for them. 

For reference, last Friday BA stock was $174.96. Let the bloodbath begin 🍿

The PR impact would be far worse if they tried to come home on the Starliner and there was a major malfunction which killed the crew. For once Boeing is listening to their engineers who caution that the potential risk is just not worth it.

If NASA had listened to engineering concerns re: the Challenger launch in 1986, that flight would have had a different outcome.

Hopefully the un-crewed Starliner reentry will be successful so they can learn what might have caused the thruster malfunctions and helium leaks, which could lead to a redesign to avoid the problem in the future.

Jim Barrett

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28 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

The PR impact would be far worse if they tried to come home on the Starliner and there was a major malfunction which killed the crew.

Good point. That would have killed Boeing even quicker.

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