September 23, 20241 yr With MSFS 2024 around the corner, I have started to look around for suitable replacement PC. My current PC is around 8 years old which I bought as factory build, But this time around I am going to custom build my PC. What you people think about below? Looking at various custom PC build websites so far I have come up with the following options (This is subject to change of course as I am looking at more options to tweak): - Intel Core i9 14900K - GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - ASUS TUF Gaming B760-PLUS WIFI Motherboard - 64GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 5600 MHz RAM - 2x M.2-2280 storage drives of 1TB and 4TB each - Windows 11 Home version With regards to CPU - the initial option was for Intel Core i7 14700K But then I changed to i9, What do you people think should I leave it with i7 or go with i9? Of course i7 is slightly cheaper. Edited September 23, 20241 yr by CAP1234
September 23, 20241 yr i9 is a remarkable chip, but be really careful about the setup of the BIOS on the ASUS board. I and others have had some major issues with the ASUS (and some other boards) default BIOS over-throttling the i9 chip and burning them out (talk about multiple MSFS crashes!) I was able to replace the processor under warranty. Using a BIOS update with more appropriate settings the new chip has been running well. Randall Rocke
September 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, CAP1234 said: With MSFS 2024 around the corner, I have started to look around for suitable replacement PC. My current PC is around 8 years old which I bought as factory build, But this time around I am going to custom build my PC. What you people think about below? Looking at various custom PC build websites so far I have come up with the following options (This is subject to change of course as I am looking at more options to tweak): - Intel Core i9 14900K - GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - ASUS TUF Gaming B760-PLUS WIFI Motherboard - 64GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 5600 MHz RAM - 2x M.2-2280 storage drives of 1TB and 4TB each - Windows 11 Home version With regards to CPU - the initial option was for Intel Core i7 14700K But then I changed to i9, What do you people think should I leave it with i7 or go with i9? Of course i7 is slightly cheaper. Replaced the i9 with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The extra 3D cache will be much more beneficial than what the i9 can offer. Plus it's TDP and power requirements is a lot lower. I personally don't think the 64GB of RAM is warranted, the spec sheet published by Asobo desperatly need refining as they don't make a lot of sense. Which brand are you buying the M.2 drives from? If it's Samsung, the premium of their drives isn't worth it unless you plan to do video work. Something like a Crucial P3 or even P3 would suffice. Honestly until Asus decides to fix their house, I wouldn't spend a lot of money on a component's who's company has dubious or even non-existent customer support. Gigabyte and Asrock haven't let me down for both Intel and AMD, if you need brand ideas.
September 23, 20241 yr Ryzen 7800X3D. The extra CPU memory cache on the X3D chips is what makes the difference in flight simming. Forget Intel at the moment. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
September 23, 20241 yr In this case why not the ryzen 9 7950x3d ? Config : AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - MSI PRO B850-S WIFI6E - RAM G.Skill 2 x 32 Go DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 - MSI GeForce RTX 5080 16G VENTUS 3X OC PLUS - 2 WQHD (2560x1440) screens and only one of which is for MSFS
September 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Area said: In this case why not the ryzen 9 7950x3d ? It depends basicaly on the price difference. But I've just given a quick look at Newegg. Looks like the 7950X3D is a better deal. EDIT: the price difference I saw was just $10. Edited September 23, 20241 yr by Luis Hernandez Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
September 23, 20241 yr If you are going to spend that type of money, try to wait for the NVidia 5000 series release. It will probably release in Q1 of next year. For a comparable price to the NVidia 4080, you can probably get an NVidia 5080. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
September 23, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, Area said: In this case why not the ryzen 9 7950x3d ? Unless OP plans on doing producitivty tasks (programming, video/art editing, 3D modelling etc) as-well, it's just wasted money as it performs the same as the 7800X3D in gaming situations
September 23, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, Area said: In this case why not the ryzen 9 7950x3d ? Because of the architecture of the chips. With the 7800X3D, all eight cores have access to the added cache. But on the 7950X3D, only half of the 16 cores have access to the cache. So you would end up having to spend some time setting up core affinity for MSFS in order to constrain the sim to the cores that have access to the onboard cache. Given the added expense, the cheaper 7800X3D is the better option in my opinion.
September 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, RandallR said: i9 is a remarkable chip, but be really careful about the setup of the BIOS on the ASUS board. I and others have had some major issues with the ASUS (and some other boards) default BIOS over-throttling the i9 chip and burning them out (talk about multiple MSFS crashes!) I was able to replace the processor under warranty. Using a BIOS update with more appropriate settings the new chip has been running well. Hi Randall, i too have an i9 13900ks. The only thing you must change in your bios setting is the power limit settings: Power limit: Tweaker tab Advanced CPU settings dubbelklik Turbo Power Limits from auto to enabled Change Package limit 1 TDP from auto to 260 (type 260) Change Package limit 2 watts from auto to 260 (type 260) Auto is unlimited power that is 4096 watts............. This changes the power from 4096 watts (unlimited) to 260 watts. The rest is default. My cpu temp never goes over 85 degrees celsius with full load (280watts) Kind regards, Bouwe OS: Windows 11 Home 64bit//Case: NZXT H7 Elite Black//CPU: i9 13900KS@6ghz//Mobo: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX//AIO: NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB V2 Black//RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB DDR5 6000Mhz - 64GB//GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC//Storage: Seagate FireCuda 530 - 4TBx2 plus 1x Intel SSDPEKNW020T8-2TB//PSU: Be Quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000W//Monitor: LG 37,5 L 38WP85C-W//Hotas Joystick: Velocity One Flightdeck//Keyboard: Logitech G213 Prodigy
September 23, 20241 yr He specified a 14900K NOT a 13900 SAR Pilot. Flight Sim'ing since the beginning.
September 23, 20241 yr 28 minutes ago, Malaromane said: Because of the architecture of the chips. With the 7800X3D, all eight cores have access to the added cache. But on the 7950X3D, only half of the 16 cores have access to the cache. So you would end up having to spend some time setting up core affinity for MSFS in order to constrain the sim to the cores that have access to the onboard cache. Given the added expense, the cheaper 7800X3D is the better option in my opinion. It takes 5 minutes to setup the CPU to use the 8 cache cores and you have another 8 for everything else. The 7950X3D is a great CPU. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
September 23, 20241 yr @CAP1234 That motherboard you specified uses a B760 chipset, which does not allow you to overclock or otherwise manage much of your hardware configuration. Spending the money on an unlocked 14900K CPU and then dropping it onto that board is a pretty big waste of potential capability--you really should consider a board with the Z790 chipset. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 24, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, RobJC said: It takes 5 minutes to setup the CPU to use the 8 cache cores and you have another 8 for everything else. The 7950X3D is a great CPU. Could you please provide us with a link or document to achieve this configuration? Config : AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - MSI PRO B850-S WIFI6E - RAM G.Skill 2 x 32 Go DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 - MSI GeForce RTX 5080 16G VENTUS 3X OC PLUS - 2 WQHD (2560x1440) screens and only one of which is for MSFS
September 24, 20241 yr Author 19 hours ago, RandallR said: i9 is a remarkable chip, but be really careful about the setup of the BIOS on the ASUS board. I and others have had some major issues with the ASUS (and some other boards) default BIOS over-throttling the i9 chip and burning them out (talk about multiple MSFS crashes!) I was able to replace the processor under warranty. Using a BIOS update with more appropriate settings the new chip has been running well. Yeah thanks - I am still evaluating between i7 and i9, but of course i9 is newer generation of processor. Ideally I am looking for something which can get me going for next 5 years or so.
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