Updated: Eleven days without seeing the sun.

[Ray Proudfoot]

The title needs changing. Nine days now. This is getting silly. But if you’re in the NE of Scotland like @jon bis you might need to slap on some sunscreen because of the Foehn effect! 🤣

I visited Wales today with a mate and we walked on the Llangollen Canal Walk. A aqueduct built by the great Thomas Telford where it crosses the River Dee. 128 feet above the river and barely wide enough for two people. One false slip and you’re in the water.

Built 200 years ago and listed on the World Heritage Site.

Still no sunshine but an enjoyable day nevertheless.

[Fielder]

I can't quite remember the Nostradamus passage where he mentions the seven days of sun not seen.

[Fielder]

Something about "pray it isn't nine"

[Ray Proudfoot]

24 minutes ago, Fielder said:

Something about "pray it isn't nine"

With the high over Europe I can guarantee it will be nine here. End of the world? 😁

[jon b]

The sun started to break through around Edinburgh and I saw my shadow for the first time in a while.

i think foehn effect will really start tomorrow with the southerly wind.

Riding along the North coast tomorrow.If I don’t feel at least a tiny bit of drizzle there it’ll be a first in 20 years.

[birdguy]

6 hours ago, martin-w said:

In fact it's so warm it turns into rain so we never knew it was snow in the first place.

In the temperate zones almost all rain starts off as snow which melts on it's way down.

Noel

[Fielder]

But she says it's going to get hot!

[Rocky_53]

I live in north Somerset and I have never, ever experienced such a miserable period of weather in my entire 71 years on this planet! I am someone who finds the weather has an effect on my mental well being. I used to suffer with SAD for many years, from November through until about February. It was always quite a battle for me. However, since taking Vitamin D about ten years ago, every day, I no longer have to deal with what was once quite a debilitating issue. My father also suffered too, so badly he emigrated to Spain, where, you guessed, he no longer had to deal with the condition. The weather where we live, has been atrocious since October 2023 and has been constantly cloudy, with many more rainy than dry days in a week. I think we had a ten day period in June or July, can't remember, where it was reasonably pleasant, every other time, I can't remember having more than two consecutive days of what I would call blue sky days. We had one evening in the summer where it was warm and pleasant enough for us to sit in the garden until nine o'clock. I smile when I talk about the warm summer days growing up in Southport, in the fifties and sixties and people say, oh yes, the weather was no different, you just remeber the better times because you're a kid... erm, no, sorry, I don't buy that one little bit. The weather was far better. I remember rainy days, I remember cold, foggy November days too and I remember downright freezing days in December when most winters my dad's fish pond would have several inches of ice! But the summers were beautiful generally, warm, sometimes hot with a gentle breeze. Most of my childhood in the summer holidays was spent at the Southport open air pool, that's something that you won't hear much of today! I think to sum up, in my opinion, the big difference was that back then the seasons were very different, with very cold winters and beautiul summers. Now, it seems the seasons are merging together! Having said that, the summers of 22/23 have had periods where the weather has been so hot it was almost unbearable! 30-34c! and with that heat came a lot of humidity, which is the killer for me. So it seems that there's no rhyme nor reason for the state of the weather. Then again, as Brits, what would we chat about if we didn't have the weather to talk about?  

Edited November 6, 2024 by Rocky_53

[martin-w]

9 hours ago, birdguy said:

In the temperate zones almost all rain starts off as snow which melts on it's way down.

Noel

 

There you go. I knew our overlord cats were feeding us accurate advise. Unfortunately, the cats advising Americans have a virus that makes them give bonkers advise... as you guys will find today, when you wake up. 😩

[Ray Proudfoot]

@Rocky_53, we tend to have rose-tinted specs when remembering the weather in our childhood. My parents went to Barnstable in the late 50s and it rained for 12 out of the 14 days. As a child I remember deep snow around 1960 in Hertfordshire but missed the bad winter of 62/63 as we emigrated to Australia.

I’ve always had an interest in the weather hence me running a weather station for the last 15 years. Last summer was disappointing but the number of great summers is small. 2018 was the last.

Winters are producing less snow. Good perhaps because cold kills and icy pavements cause falls for the elderly. The longest dry spell for November I’ve recorded was 8 days in 2011. That looks likely to be broken.

One thing. If this high had happened in summer we’d have clear skies and high temps. The sun is too low now to burn the cloud off.

Cheer up. By Christmas the days are getting longer. 😉

[Fielder]

Nothing surprising. Looking at the historical charts, it sure looks to me like we are overdue for an ice age. Winter is coming! It happens every few centuries. You can't fool mother nature.

[martin-w]

18 minutes ago, Fielder said:

Nothing surprising. Looking at the historical charts, it sure looks to me like we are overdue for an ice age. Winter is coming! It happens every few centuries. You can't fool mother nature.

 

Nope. Last estimate I saw is that we are 50,000 years away from the beggining of another ice age.

Positive feedbacks and changes in the Earths orbit around the sun trigger an ice age. Those factors aren't in place.

Edited November 6, 2024 by martin-w

[Overload]

On the plus side, hop into any plane using live weather, and your out the tops, back in the sunshine, 2 to 4000ft off the ground. MS2020, does a pretty good job of showing the sort of clouds that occur in such weather, just a tad too much vertical development. My memory from my RW flying days, was the cockpit getting brighter and brighter  as you approached the tops, then breaking out into wall to wall blue skies and brilliant sunshine, with a pancake flat layer of cloud and unlimited visibility. I could even identify the position of some local power station cooling towers by the bump in cloud caused by the rising warm air. 

[G-RFRY]

This is why a UK government think tank is planning the possibility of rationing electricity after 2030, as the country goes 100% renewable. IE power cuts to keep essential service supplied.

[Ray Proudfoot]

Gents, can we please keep away from any climate change chat? That will get the topic locked as it's against forum rules.