November 25, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Seth2021 said: Because its working on 100% with out any demanding task or process. Imagine if you let you pc for 3 hours while you pause your flight and return to main menu. Its going to be 3 hours with 60-70c temp continuously + 80-90c on hot spot temp. This is a clear bug that Asobo need to fix, like they did on 2020. Seems strange for anyone to leave their sim paused for 3 hours, but even so, the temperatures you mention are well within safe limits. By the way, pausing the sim doesn't mean that it will stop rendering. The sim is also rendering the entire planet now in the main menu. This is what allows for the faster load times.
November 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, RNAVV19R said: Why are people concerned about high GPU usage? This sort of thing is very common in other games. This won't hurt your GPU, I assure you. If you've got proper cooling, then the GPU will operate at peak performance without issue. If you do not have proper cooling, then the GPU will downclock to remain below its maximum safe temperature, so you may lose some performance. But in either case, it will not harm your GPU. There is nothing to worry about. I'm not concerned about GPU life with the 99% usage. Anything above 99% always makes the sim stutter in my experience, from FSX and beyond. If I can stay below 97%, zero stutters or pauses. Edited November 25, 20241 yr by Bones62
November 25, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Bones62 said: I'm not concerned about GPU life with the 99% usage. Anything above 99% always makes the sim stutter in my experience, from FSX and beyond. If I stay below 97%, zero stutters or pauses. What are your specs?
November 25, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said: What are your specs? 4060 Ti 16 Gb Vram, 13600KF stock speed, 32 Gb Ram, 2560x1440. Edited November 25, 20241 yr by Bones62
November 25, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Bones62 said: 4060 Ti 16 Gb Vram, 13600KF stock speed, 32 Gb Ram, 2560x1440. That makes sense. When your GPU usage drops, it means you are more CPU bound, and because your CPU is more capable than your GPU, your system performs better in CPU bound scenarios. However, MSFS 2024 is way more GPU bound than MSFS 2020, so your system will struggle with the new sim.
November 25, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, RNAVV19R said: That makes sense. When your GPU usage drops, it means you are more CPU bound, and because your CPU is more capable than your GPU, your system performs better in CPU bound scenarios. However, MSFS 2024 is way more GPU bound than MSFS 2020, so your system will struggle with the new sim. It won't struggle as long as I temper my expectations though. I had no dream that I would be able to play at 4K with an iniBuilds aircraft at an iniBuilds airport. I plan on no scenery or traffic addons. If the Comanche is upgraded, I'll add it. To be able to fly with most settings on Ultra has exceeded my expectations, and the recommended 30 fps looks way smoother in 2024 than any other simulator I've flown. I was getting 60 in 2020, but this actually looks smoother. London stays below 97% GPU, but the rest of the UK is 85% or lower, Ultra traffic and bad weather included. Edited November 25, 20241 yr by Bones62
November 25, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, Bones62 said: It won't struggle as long as I temper my expectations though. I had no dream that I would be able to play at 4K with an iniBuilds aircraft at an iniBuilds airport. I plan on no scenery or traffic addons. If the Comanche is upgraded, I'll add it. To be able to fly with most settings on Ultra has exceeded my expectations, and the recommended 30 fps looks way smoother on 2024 than any other simulator I've flown. I was getting 60 in 2020, but this actually looks smoother. London stays below 97% GPU, but the rest of the UK is 85% or lower. Yeah, being GPU limited will usually provide a smoother experience than being CPU limited, provided that your GPU is up to the task. I find that even with a ton of addons, you will still be GPU limited in 2024, whereas in 2020, GPU usage would drop into the 50s and 40s on or near the ground on my 4090 when using multiple addons at the same time. Edited November 25, 20241 yr by RNAVV19R
November 25, 20241 yr Has anyone confirmed if the behavior is the same in both free flight and career mode/missions? I have seen some videos where free flight produced what everyone is describing but career/missions did not. I don't think this is a "good thing." Especially when it is happening with virtually nothing demanding. Last time I saw that was FS9 LOL. Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
November 25, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Bones62 said: If the Comanche is upgraded, I'll add it. The Comanche will work just fine.. good to go. Bert
November 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Seth2021 said: Imagine if you let you pc for 3 hours while you pause your flight and return to main menu. Presumably no longer applies as it did in 2020, but in 2020 when you hit Esc to bring up the option to Save/Load the flight you're in when you simply do this and choose something like Save to PC or whatever it's called, but DON'T actually save it just leave the dialogue open you will find at least CPU use big time drops in use, which is what I've always done when I leave the sim for extended periods. Come back, hit Cancel or whatever it says, then resume the flight and all is well. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 25, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, RNAVV19R said: Seems strange for anyone to leave their sim paused for 3 hours, but even so, the temperatures you mention are well within safe limits. Never done that huh? Okay, well I do it regularly and I'll bet thousands of others do as well. Safe limits are one thing but the power draw for your GPU at 99% is prodigious to say the least, especially when it's sitting there rendering nothing NEW. I hope they discover the source and fix it it's clearly defect. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
November 26, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, romaf12008 said: My 2020 easily devours all 12Gb video memory which is the resolution? i talking abou 1080p which 8gb vram should be enough for 2k, 4k is different and need more than 10gb Edited November 26, 20241 yr by michdb8
November 26, 20241 yr Author So I’ve just done a little experiment. FS24 - dev mode fps display tells me I’m main thread limited (despite nvidia display telling me my CPU at the time was sat at 2% and my GPU at 100%). FS20 - same location, aircraft etc. GPU limited (but with more balanced use according to nvidia and GPU sat around 60%). RTX3090 24gb and i7-14700K 3.40 GHz and 64gb RAM. Odd….I am no expert though.
January 4, 20251 yr Kickstarting this thread again, my 4090 is constantly pegged at 99% causing my fans to go into overdrive. Is this a known issue with a fix on the way? Thomas Derbyshire
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