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First Ever CTD in 2020

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Interesting. This is what ChatGPT said when I asked the question:-  

Yes, a server issue at Microsoft's end can cause a crash to desktop (CTD) in MSFS 2020. Since MSFS relies heavily on online streaming for scenery data, live weather, multiplayer, and other services, any disruption in the connection to Microsoft's servers can result in issues that may cause the game to crash. For example, if the simulator loses connection to essential data streaming or experiences syncing problems with the servers, it can lead to instability.

In such cases, you may notice issues like:

  • Slow loading or freezing before the CTD.
  • Error messages related to "Online Services" or a prompt about connectivity loss.

While server-side issues can cause CTDs, it’s always worth ensuring that your local system, mods, and third-party add-ons are stable, as they can also trigger crashes. Disabling mods temporarily and running MSFS in offline mode can help you determine if server-side issues are the primary cause.

Howard
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  • If anyone remembers, when the servers went bonkers after 2024 was released, many got CTDs. When the servers were fixed, that went away. Don't believe that your PC suddenly went bad and then fixed itse

  • Mine went to word not allowed after that micro update  we had for msfs 2020. A few days ago.

  • Christopher Low
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    I am with Bob on this one with respect to graphics drivers. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

4 hours ago, Sethos said:

No, that's simply not how it works. It just exposed an instability in your system. Stress testing is not something you do with a piece of software and then it's stable. Stress testing is a multi-faceted approach of a lot of high insensitivity applications and a lot of low impact programs, like games, that hit your hardware different due to not just hitting the highest end of the spectrum. Overclockers see this constantly, you can run Prime95, OCCT and Y-cruncher for days and it be stable but play a game for a few hours and suddenly the PC can crash and reboot because a lower range instability was exposed. It's a tale as old as time. 

YAAS! All this.

And I am sure it was mentioned but addons are a particular culprit. Even if you didn't update or download something from a third party. Even from the market place. Scenery can conflict with other scenery sometimes. However, most of this was resolved prior to and up to SU15 if I remember correctly.

I had nothing but problems, clean install. Still CTD's out of nowhere. Been smooth since then

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Well i have found the culprit for me and it was the nvidia driver latest.

I rolled back to previous driver and no more pc shutdowns.

Thought it might help others.

Mike

22 hours ago, psolk said:

Well in my 32 years of IT I have seen stranger so making empirical statements is something I tend to shy away from so yes, we will agree to disagree.  

In the 90's, a user complained their HP workstation had coloured spots on the display. I swapped stuff out and it made no difference until the last thing I tried, the CPU. Nah I thought, so I put the CPU in another PC and... coloured spots on the display.

I logged a call with HP and they laughed at me. When I finally got an engineer out, he asked (laughing) whether it was me that thought a CPU was causing coloured spots to appear on the display.

One hour and a CPU replacement later, he was laughing no more...

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On 12/3/2024 at 1:52 AM, Rocky_53 said:

I know some of you may find it difficult to believe, but I have never had a CTD in 2020 in the four years of flying....until today! Having read other guys posting similar experiences in 2020 over the past few weeks, I thought I'd share my experience. No new addons, no 2024 installed, soooo....? 

I had DXGI ctds this morning. The sim couldn't pass the loading screen. Last night was fine. Found the solution on Avsim.

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45 minutes ago, History said:

Found the solution on Avsim.

Could you link please.

Howard
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My FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776

12 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

Could you link please.

There's a longer thread but the above link is the solution in a nutshell. Good luck.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, History said:

There's a longer thread but the above link is the solution in a nutshell. Good luck.

 

 

Cheers

Howard
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My FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776

3 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said:

Cheers

I think someone else already asked, but you never answered. What does Event Viewer say about the crash?

Cheers, Søren Dissing

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2 minutes ago, SierraDelta said:

I think someone else already asked, but you never answered. What does Event Viewer say about the crash?

Ah, sorry Søren, sure, couldn't see anything unusual.

Howard
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I also had three DXGI CTD's this morning, never had this before.

Everything was perfect when I last flew on Friday of last week. I had updated too the latest NVIDIA drivers and the sim was performing amazingly, I actually thought to myself it was the best I had seen in quite a while.

Clearly I jinxed myself LOL

 

Richard

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I have just completed a quick flight at ORBx ESNU Umea this evening, and I noticed some black lines in a lake for the first time ever in MSFS 2020. These are not those "land bars" that I have mentioned countless times in the past. They are the "thin black lines" that appear and disappear as you fly past. I had assumed that they were a phenomenon related to having PG enabled, but sadly that does not appear to be the case. However, I remain puzzled as to why it has taken me so long (a full year) to see any of them on my own PC :huh:

Maybe the conspiracy theorists could enlighten me as to whether this has anything to do with MSFS 2024? :biggrin:

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Well I managed one flight with no DXGI CTD then tried again and it happened twice at the gate.

Man this is frustrating, I guess I will be rolling back my Nvidia driver 

 

Richard

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8 minutes ago, RJC68 said:

Well I managed one flight with no DXGI CTD then tried again and it happened twice at the gate.

Man this is frustrating, I guess I will be rolling back my Nvidia driver 

Once I have a driver that works, I don't mess with it. Driver problems I have had over the years, Zero. 

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Once I have a driver that works, I don't mess with it. Driver problems I have had over the years, Zero. 

The weird thing was I did 3 perfect flights just a few days ago and now the same error time after time, maybe it is a MS/ASOBO thing, who knows !

 

Richard

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