More thoughts.

If an object appears to pass through a mountain, that doesn't make it an alien spacecraft. That makes it an optical illusion. This also applies to objects that totally defy physics. And objects that don't appear on radar. Some reports seem to indicate some objects on radar defying physics.

We have video of the helicopter transporting a featureless "egg shaped object." This doesn't make it an aircraft of any sort, and certainly doesn't imply aliens.

Hook

 

48 minutes ago, LHookins said:

If an object appears to pass through a mountain, that doesn't make it an alien spacecraft. That makes it an optical illusion

That's a big assumption you're making. (see below) 

48 minutes ago, LHookins said:

This also applies to objects that totally defy physics. And objects that don't appear on radar. Some reports seem to indicate some objects on radar defying physics.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". 

Also, we don't know what we don't know. If we're observing something from a flawed or incomplete framework, it's easy to throw out the things that don't fit.

Most of established physics works well to explain most of what is observed, but the edge cases are a problem because not all of them can be explained away by bad data. 

If your best (multi-sensor, corroborated) data is showing you a physical object defying the "laws" of physics enough times, it's time to stop looking at the sensors and start looking at the physics which is, after all, based on observational data. 

 

48 minutes ago, LHookins said:

We have video of the helicopter transporting a featureless "egg shaped object." This doesn't make it an aircraft of any sort, and certainly doesn't imply aliens.

This will be true of any single piece of evidence presented in a vacuum. 

I think the point is the growing body of credentialed whistleblower testimony + documents + video evidence + corroborating witnesses.

We are technically past the point where the Court case would have been won, but "extraordinary claims" etc etc, so instead, a large body of varied types of evidence is being compiled, with the latest additions being first-hand witness testimony. 

For many, their worldview won't budge unless, or until they meet an NHI stepping off a craft in-person. At that point, the effect on their worldview may be quite catastrophic. 

 

DB

14 hours ago, Fielder said:

All aliens realize that Earthlings can reason and act sensible, especially when it's in our best interest to do so.

Err? 

We are a species smart enough to figure out how to build a nuclear bomb..... and so underdeveloped morally that we actually used it twice (on other humans), then built so many of them that if they were ever used again, complete destruction is almost a certainty. 

.... Then we put ourselves in multiple situations where we walked disturbingly close to that line (we're technically in one of those right now). 

Any new technological advancement is weaponized first, before its used to benefit or uplift people. 

There's nothing reasonable or sensible about that.

 

We are at best, unpredictable. 

(There are many beautiful things about humanity as well, but just making a point) 

 

DB

" Any new technological advancement is weaponized first, before its used to benefit or uplift people.  "

These days Robert Randazzo's creations uplift flight simmers all around the world! But at first they were dangerous.

I think I've sorted it out.

The entire thing was billed as a highly credentialed "whistleblower" (i.e. teller of secrets) with video of what is implied to be an alien spacecraft. After some peripheral storytelling we get dialog about the object, then a bit of video.

What did the video show? Basically... a rock. But because the rock didn't have exhaust ports or control surfaces, the only thing it could possibly be was an alien spacecraft. They pushed it really hard, leaving no off-ramp for other explanations.

The outcome? The True Believers will truly believe. The Truth Seekers who are hoping for actual evidence will be cheesed off yet again because they've been lied to yet again and sold yet another bill of goods. The True Skeptics will, as always, be truly skeptical.

And none of this had anything to do with the drone sightings. Given that the timing of the release of this story links it to the drones it's likely that the drone issue is what we're being distracted from in this case.

Hook

 

8 hours ago, DaviiB said:

We are at best, unpredictable. 

The problem is that it's not really the "people" that potential aliens have to worry about - it's our govt., corporate, and "elite" overlords.

Anything that threatens their power or wealth will be deemed a threat and will be challenged.  My own country has been doing this for decades and is doing it again, now that there is a new kid on the block who is almost as big and bad.

These are people who will not hesitate to launch nukes at alien visitors even if the aliens take no hostile actions.

Dave

2 hours ago, LHookins said:

And none of this had anything to do with the drone sightings. Given that the timing of the release of this story links it to the drones it's likely that the drone issue is what we're being distracted from in this case.

Pretty sure the timing of this release was to get the attention of incoming president #47, seeing that the announcement of the news segment was made on #47's son's podcast a few days prior. 

 

DB

I think that if they DO exist (and I'm 50/50 on this) then they're sensibly keeping their distance from our planet.

My Dad made a documentary for ITV (UK commercial television) in the 90's about the multitude of UFO sightings over Russia, in particular St Petersburg. I've seen all the raw footage. It is amazing.

I interviewed an ex-MOD staffer who admitted that he thought they DID exist but everything was still "under wraps". This was for a London radio station (LBC for those familiar with it). 

I haven't seen a UFO "in person" so I try and keep an open mind on the subject. Unfortunately the subject does attract the attention of some "unbalanced" conspiracy theorists which tends to kill any serious debate on the subject.

 

7 hours ago, TrafficPilot said:

Unfortunately the subject does attract the attention of some "unbalanced" conspiracy theorists which tends to kill any serious debate on the subject.

What are the odds that that's on purpose?

/conspiracy theory    🙃

 

DB

15 minutes ago, DaviiB said:

What are the odds that that's on purpose?

/conspiracy theory    🙃

 

DB

Do you know I did consider that a few hours ago and then decided it was too much for my brain to deal with so had a cup of tea instead.

56 minutes ago, TrafficPilot said:

it was too much for my brain to deal with so had a cup of tea instead.

Self-care helps in treating the symptoms of UFOitis 👨🏽‍⚕️

On 1/20/2025 at 1:43 AM, dave2013 said:

These are people who will not hesitate to launch nukes at alien visitors even if the aliens take no hostile actions.

 

Surely they wouldn't be dumb enough to attack a spacecraft from a civilization, that by definition, would be orders of magnitude more advanced that ours?  😲

 

Certainly hope not. 

 

Full interview.

 

 

And now another whistle-blower....

 

 

Er….what is it he’s blowing the whistle on exactly?