March 17, 20251 yr Honestly, force feedback in rudder pedals is pretty unnecessary. You'd likely never even notice it, unless you were doing a lot of aerobatics in GA planes. In anything with hydraulic controls, there's really no force feedback in rudder or ailerons for that matter, just an artificial centering unit (basically a better version of the spring centering in sim controls). Now elevator, that's a different story because of the feel of changing pitch trim state. Andrew Crowley
March 17, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Stearmandriver said: Honestly, force feedback in rudder pedals is pretty unnecessary. You'd likely never even notice it, unless you were doing a lot of aerobatics in GA planes. In anything with hydraulic controls, there's really no force feedback in rudder or ailerons for that matter, just an artificial centering unit (basically a better version of the spring centering in sim controls). Now elevator, that's a different story because of the feel of changing pitch trim state. Even for airliners, though, wouldn't force feedback pedals be nice for engine out work because you would be able to trim away the force you're holding on the pedals? Admittedly, not an everyday scenario. Agree that pitch trim is the place where force feedback would be a gamechanger. And for airplanes with manually powered controls, of course, variable control forces would really add to the immersion. BTW, I got to try the WinWing force feedback prototypes (joystick, yoke and pedals) at FSWeekend. They didn't have them hooked up to a sim - it was just the peripherals themselves with two faders that allowed you to control the (simulated) spring tension and damping. They did feel nice though - no "notchiness", and they produced a decent amount of force. And the price point is very impressive. I'm temped to get at least the joystick, maybe the pedals too... Edited March 17, 20251 yr by martinboehme
March 17, 20251 yr On 3/16/2025 at 4:04 AM, Ident said: The force feedback pedals can i get a link for the pedals please. thanks
March 17, 20251 yr It's probably just me, but wasn't that presentation just a little bit 'Steve Jobs'? The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
March 17, 20251 yr 12 hours ago, martinboehme said: Even for airliners, though, wouldn't force feedback pedals be nice for engine out work because you would be able to trim away the force you're holding on the pedals? Admittedly, not an everyday scenario. Solid point. They would be good for that! Andrew Crowley
March 17, 20251 yr 8 hours ago, Ron Attwood said: It's probably just me, but wasn't that presentation just a little bit 'Steve Jobs'? Except they don't ask Apple prices. cheers, NiIs U.AMD 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 RAM @ 3200MHz | RTX 4070 12GB @ 1920x1050px
March 18, 20251 yr 12 hours ago, fluffyflops said: can i get a link for the pedals please. thanks No link as they were shown in the video as products coming. i9-13900K O/C | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY | RTX 4090 24GB | 2x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO) 1x SSD (4TB Samsung 870 EVO) | Windows 11 Home | H20: HydroLux PRO:HardLine Tubing| 1000w PSU | Starlink WiFi
March 18, 20251 yr Force feedback: meh. I want wind to blow in my hair, and oil mist spraying my face when I fly the Sopwith Camel. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
March 18, 20251 yr 8 hours ago, Ident said: No link as they were shown in the video as products coming. ahh thanks alot.
March 18, 20251 yr 9 hours ago, Fielder said: Force feedback: meh. I want wind to blow in my hair, and oil mist spraying my face when I fly the Sopwith Camel. Want, want, want! The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
March 18, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, Fielder said: Force feedback: meh. I want wind to blow in my hair, and oil mist spraying my face when I fly the Sopwith Camel. I got two fans and a candle that smells like aviation fuel that gives me these effects when I fly my stearman. There is also a wind machine for about $300 that has software for MSFS that makes the wind go in different directions and speed depending on the situation. I also use 3 buttkickers for all the other effects. CPU: Intel i9-11900K @5.2 / RAM: 64GB DDR4 3200 / GPU: 4080 16GB /
March 19, 20251 yr On 3/16/2025 at 7:55 AM, micstatic said: not a fan of their website. But I had the airbus mcdu in a few weeks. Was thinking of purchasing. How's The quality of the product? Thanks
March 19, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, mikeymike said: Was thinking of purchasing. How's The quality of the product? Thanks pretty good. especially for the price. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
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