March 20, 20251 yr Fully acknowledging we are the minority here, I actually agree with @Claudius_. The section above the cockpit windows looks slightly too edgy to me. I already had that impression before this thread. And I also agree that the general modeling in that area looks better on the PMDG 737. This is of course just my personal opinion. cheers, NiIs U.AMD 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 RAM @ 3200MHz | RTX 4070 12GB @ 1920x1050px
March 20, 20251 yr To be fair photo had to be taken at exactly the same angle and distance as a screenshot. There are shades and reflection in play that may affect viewer perspective Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
March 20, 20251 yr Wow… if these are the things that people are looking for and get upset with, than Asobo reallly has done a very good job .. ✈️ 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
March 20, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, GSalden said: Wow… if these are the things that people are looking for and get upset with, than Asobo reallly has done a very good job .. ✈️ This type of scrutiny is on Avsim Forums daily. Just depends who posts it as to what reaction it receives!
March 20, 20251 yr 8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: and BTW I sort my paper clips by atomic weight. 😉 Ok you cracked me up big time 🤣. Good one. Thanks for the laugh!!!! Private Pilot | Windsor Flying Club | CYQG Intel i5 14400F | Gigabyte H610M | Manli RTX 3090 24GB | Kingston DDR4 32GB | DarkFlash 800W | Win 11 | MSFS2020&24 | Lossless Scaling & AutoFPS |
March 21, 20251 yr Sorry, word not allowed here, can only shake my head..🤭 cheers 🤔 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
March 21, 20251 yr 18 hours ago, Claudius_ said: I verified these modeling issue more times in FS20, the Ifly B738max has the windscreeen/fuselage transition too steep, it seems that it has a sort of "eyebrows". The PMDG 737 doesn't have this modeling issue. Sorry disgruntled Pmdg boy. The IFly is the greatest Boeing sim ever made for home PC flight simulator. http://youtube.com/c/Greazer
March 21, 20251 yr Author 19 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: I noticed a couple of rivets on my PMDG 737 don't look symmetrical. Should I ask for a refund, and BTW I sort my paper clips by atomic weight. 😉 You're welcome Mr. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", with video card drivers sometimes 3 or 4 years old. Don't forget to upgrade you flight sim experience to MSFS24, otherwise you'll get confused. 12 hours ago, GSalden said: Wow… if these are the things that people are looking for and get upset with, than Asobo reallly has done a very good job .. ✈️ Discuss the idea not the person is a good principle, because I have never criticized your coffin style home flight simulator. The details are very important sometimes. 2 hours ago, Greazer said: Sorry disgruntled Pmdg boy. The IFly is the greatest Boeing sim ever made for home PC flight simulator. I bought the Ifly B737 max about a week ago, except the DC-6 I don't have any other PMDG airplane on MSFS20. Ifly is a good dev, but I don't believe that they need f.a.n. boys like you, because utterly incapable to judge the difference between a good or bad product. Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
March 21, 20251 yr It doesn't have MCAS yet we're arguing about window dimensions. Welcome to simming @2025... Russell Gough SE London
March 21, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, Greazer said: Sorry disgruntled Pmdg boy. The IFly is the greatest Boeing sim ever made for home PC flight simulator. O i know, it is realy one of the best AC we have now and somehow you misunderstood my upper comment. I was referring to the initial thread, which seems massively exaggerated to me - i can't understand what could possibly bother some people, sorry to say but i have to.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
March 22, 20251 yr its the person that got upset with something that no one sees as an issue. The iFly looks stunning. With all details. Just enjoy flying the plane. What a self built home cockpit has to do with it is not clear to me … And if the details of my cockpit are disturbing you I can sent you a PM with my bank account. A sponsor so I can upgrade and make it look better is always welcome …. 😃 Edited March 22, 20251 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
March 22, 20251 yr This thread is... Huh. Here's just one real life 737 picture I found with 20 seconds of googling. Obviously an older model given the presence of the R4 and R5 windows, but also obviously it's the same fuselage. Even in your color. 😉 Andrew Crowley
March 22, 20251 yr 23 hours ago, sloppysmusic said: It doesn't have MCAS yet we're arguing about window dimensions. Welcome to simming @2025... I feel like we've been through this. There isn't really a good way to model the speed trim system without artificially mucking with the flight model trim state, because the phenomena that speed trim (to include MCAS) compensates for do not exist in desktop sim land. I think this is why PMDG's trim state shifts bizarrely as you accelerate through about 230kts when hand flying. Why break something so you can pretend to fix it? Edited March 22, 20251 yr by Stearmandriver Andrew Crowley
March 22, 20251 yr Author 53 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said: This thread is... Huh. Here's just one real life 737 picture I found with 20 seconds of googling. Obviously an older model given the presence of the R4 and R5 windows, but also obviously it's the same fuselage. Even in your color. 😉 I don't understand your point, your image is showing clearly the difference from the RL the IFly B38m, maybe you find it in 20 sec but I think you have to observe your Ifly B38 more carefully. Anyway, I got good replies from the Ifly support, and I attach the screenshot of their opinion on this. Confirmed that this is a low priority issue, I think it's important because Ifly made an excellent 3D cockpit model, but the external outline, especially in the cockpit area should be treated more carefully. At this moment I'm observing the wipers position too, and it seems there is a bit of difference with the RL model. Edited March 22, 20251 yr by Claudius_ Missing the PMDG DC6 in MSFS 2024 (she's here, but...).
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