So this news that PMDG might do a 787 for MSFS became a discussion topic on Reddit, and BlueBird Simulations, who is also planning to do a 787 for MSFS, responded to the news about the PMDG 787:

And also this response:

As you may know, BlueBird Simulations is doing a 757 and 767 for MSFS. Their 757 was on display at the recent FSExpo.

Anyways, BlueBird Simulations, and PMDG doing a 787 for MSFS would be awesome because it just gives more choice for MSFS users to choose from.

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by abrams_tank

Sure, in 2030...  They even say the variants of the 767 are a few years off.

I doubt you will see either of them, a BB 767 or a PMDG 787 before 2028 and PMDG still hasn't given anything other than a wink and a smile so it could be shorter, longer or never. 

Circle back in 3 years and we can see where we are LOL 

Lot's of things can happen between now and then as the latest MS Gaming layoffs and budget grabs from partner devs goes to show.

I'll get excited about this when EITHER of them are something more than vaporware.  

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by psolk

I guess that Bluebird Simulations were excited to let everyone know about their projected development roadmap, but was it such a clever idea to get everyone excited about a 787, and then suddenly say that this will not be released until at least 2030? 

17 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I guess that Bluebird Simulations were excited to let everyone know about their projected development roadmap, but was it such a clever idea to get everyone excited about a 787, and then suddenly say that this will not be released until at least 2030? 

Sometimes it's an advantage to announce you are developing a specific airplane, because it dissuades other developers from spending their resources to complete against you. It appeared that when IniBuilds announced they were doing an A350, it seemed to convince Fenix to drop their A350 project.

But if the BlueBird Simulations 787 is coming out in 2030 or later, that's plenty of time for PMDG to beat them to the market with their own 787. 

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by abrams_tank

21 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

But if the BlueBird Simulations 787 is coming out in 2030 or later, that's plenty of time for PMDG to beat them to the market with their own 787

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 I think you will love our 787 too. But don't expect the 787 until a few years at best. Maybe 2030.

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by psolk

36 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

 It appeared that when IniBuilds announced they were doing an A350, it seemed to convince Fenix to drop their A350 project.

The fact that captain sim already has a 767 (a pretty similar plane system wise) doesn't stop bluebird, does it?

I would take that statement from fenix with a grain of salt, or else they are completely unfamiliar with other developers and what they are capable of.

I know that some like to hype up inibuilds as some top tier developer (probably because they are in cahoots with asobo) but alas, their track record suggests otherwise, and one has to be blind not to see that.

Pmdg won't. They only good at copy paste.. Fs2004, Fsx, p3d, FS2020 and 24. same line of produces nothing new. 

12 minutes ago, LineDX said:

Pmdg won't. They only good at copy paste.. Fs2004, Fsx, p3d, FS2020 and 24. same line of produces nothing new. 

Impressive how much nonsense can be written in so few words.

1 hour ago, MaximumN2 said:

Impressive how much nonsense can be written in so few words.

More impressive when people buy their nonsense copy paste product and belive its a new product. 

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by LineDX

25 minutes ago, LineDX said:

More impressive when people buy their nonsense copy paste product and belive its a new product. 

So do you "belive" in that nonsense you wrote? LOL  

25 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So do you "belive" in that nonsense you wrote? LOL  

So what is so different from the PMDG versions from FSX/P3D to MSFS other than upgraded textures. Oh yeah a new integrated EFB or flight tablet as they call it? Maybe some updated LNAV logic.

Edited July 19, 2025Jul 19 by JBDB-MD80

17 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

So what is so different from the PMDG versions from FSX/P3D to MSFS other than upgraded textures. Oh yeah a new integrated EFB or flight tablet as they call it? Maybe some updated LNAV logic.

Is like you asking what is new with combustion engine 100 years later! LOL What do you expect to be different? A g meter in the tail when land hard it reports to the company?  LOL Seriously!   Obviously there are many improvements, but also there are many things that kind of the same. For one thing PMDG EFB is one of the most intuitive EFB on the market at least for me! May be it's a little thing but spare one time and headache. Another thing (again for me in 2024) is very good fps stability I have absolutely no crashes. Stability wasn't that great in FSX/P3D for me. There rest is yes little improve LNAV little improve VNAV. But in this respect I can't remember a vendor with perfect airliners. Everyone releases product with certain limitation and then trying to improve. Given that I'm still waiting for VNAV in Ejet I got two years ago, I don't thing PMDG is doing that bad LOL     

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

Is like you asking what is new with combustion engine 100 years later! LOL What do you expect to be different? A g meter in the tail when land hard it reports to the company?  

PMDG is recycling ESP code to WASM nothing special (nothing to do with 100 year combustion LMAO). Only other competition in the  Boeing sector is the iFly MAX8. Of course they will make plenty of money. Nothing special though.

Edited July 20, 2025Jul 20 by JBDB-MD80

4 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

So what is so different from the PMDG versions from FSX/P3D to MSFS other than upgraded textures. Oh yeah a new integrated EFB or flight tablet as they call it? Maybe some updated LNAV logic.

This always makes me smile. What is it that should be new…?

the planes haven’t changed IRL, after all…

this also ignores that the addons had to be completely re-coded for the new sim. 

I can’t say definitively, but there’s likely been some serious 3D updating / rework that had to be done, as well. 

Unless PMDG finally learn how to make a proper flight model for MSFS, I'd rather see another developer release a 787. I'd love to see what iFly could do with the 787, or even Bluebird down the road.