May 29May 29 23 minutes ago, Zangoose said:Interesting, it looks like this scenery has DRM:Just saw that too. Lande3 are the folks that sell the vRAAS add on. There is no DRM with that that I see. Changes it from instabuy to wait a bit for me... Joe Lorenc
May 29May 29 Fenix, iFly, FSLabs all have their modules running in parallel with the sim. Don't see any reasons why scenery developers cannot to this as well. However, I'd rather prefer that this module would start automatically. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
May 29May 29 Count me out as well. Plenty of other major airports around. 100 % certainty it will be hacked anyways.
May 29May 29 What is the price tag? 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
May 29May 29 I have a few questions about this DRM. Does this app need to be ran everytime I want to fly into or out of Atlanta?Will it run in the EXE.XML when I start the sim or do I need to start it each time?What if I fly over Atlanta or need to devert during an event and I didn't start it before I started my sim?If I don't have it running, do I have the default Atlanta? Notes says it auto disables default Atlanta?If they wanted it secure, they should have just uploaded to the Marketplace as those files are encrypted. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
May 29May 29 Definitely a hard pass for me! While I don’t mind entering a serial number to activate a product, I refuse to keep a program opened external to the sim just to use a single airport.
May 29May 29 5 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:Fenix, iFly, FSLabs all have their modules running in parallel with the sim. Don't see any reasons why scenery developers cannot to this as well. However, I'd rather prefer that this module would start automatically.They run when I’m using the product. This DRM implies it’ll automatically start each time the sim loads regardless if I’m going to Atlanta. What if the client closes during my flight? Am I screwed when I try to land and I’ll be met with blurry textures? Authenticate the product when I buy it and install it. It’s that simple. Gaming rig Intel i9 13900k - NZXT Kraken Z73 cooler - ASUS Maximus Hero Z790 64GB Trident Z 6400MHz DDR5 - Gigabyte 4090 GAMING OC 24G 10 x 120mm Lian Li UNI fans - Lian Li OD11XL Case - Corsair HX1500i PSU
May 29May 29 My other guess is that developer used the materials/photos for scenery creation that have active copyright protection. Hence, it might not be his/her decision. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
May 29May 29 7 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:Fenix, iFly, FSLabs all have their modules running in parallel with the sim. Don't see any reasons why scenery developers cannot to this as well. However, I'd rather prefer that this module would start automatically.I believe those modules only load up automatically when using their aircraft, and are needed because certain elements require outside resources to function (at least in the case of Fenix). Plus if we need one for every bit of scenery that’s a lot of clogs plugging the drain.Also a consequence of this will be a substantial increase in support tickets “why is my scenery not working.” Edited May 29May 29 by Gilandred Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
May 29May 29 2 minutes ago, Gilandred said:I believe those modules only load up automatically when using their aircraft, and are needed because certain elements require outside resources to function (at least in the case of Fenix). Plus if we need one for every bit of scenery that’s a lot of clogs plugging the drain.I agree. I'm just trying to understand the reasoning. Also, I'm a bit puzzled that all DRM issues should be solved not with the developer, but with DRM provider. Something new in the sim-world. 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
May 29May 29 Just now, Gilandred said:I believe those modules only load up automatically when using their aircraft, and are needed because certain elements require outside resources to function (at least in the case of Fenix). Plus if we need one for every bit of scenery that’s a lot of clogs plugging the drain.Exactly this…. Imagine a day when Orbx, inibuilds, flytampa, mkstudios decide they want their own 3rd party DRM app running constantly to run their scenery - because we all know they sure as hell won’t all use the same one because of the “we do it better” mindset.We already run a platform that is susceptible to WASM crashes, CTDs, memory leaks, etc… I don’t want even a small program risking stability for my long haul because of some silly DRM that needs to run even when I’m not flying to that airport. Edited May 29May 29 by Keirtt Gaming rig Intel i9 13900k - NZXT Kraken Z73 cooler - ASUS Maximus Hero Z790 64GB Trident Z 6400MHz DDR5 - Gigabyte 4090 GAMING OC 24G 10 x 120mm Lian Li UNI fans - Lian Li OD11XL Case - Corsair HX1500i PSU
May 29May 29 4 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:I agree. I'm just trying to understand the reasoning. Also, I'm a bit puzzled that all DRM issues should be solved not with the developer, but with DRM provider. Something new in the sim-world.This could in fact be an Orbx thing that they plan to roll out to all their products eventually. We’ll see. Gary i9-13900K, Asus RTX 4080, Asus Z790 Plus Wi-Fi, 32 GB Ram, Seasonic GX-1000W, LG C1 48” OLED 4K monitor, Quest 3 VR
May 29May 29 8 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:Fenix, iFly, FSLabs all have their modules running in parallel with the sim. Don't see any reasons why scenery developers cannot to this as well. However, I'd rather prefer that this module would start automatically.I understand using it with planes but imagine if more scenery developers started using this. Like you said, iFly, Fenix and FSLabs use this. Even if I’m flying the PMDG these apps are running in the background.Imagine having dozens of scenery DRM’s running in the background, regardless if you fly to one of those airports or not. What if I forgot to start it before my SIM. They should have just put it on the Marketplace. Edited May 29May 29 by Wise87 Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
May 29May 29 1 minute ago, Gilandred said:This could in fact be an Orbx thing that they plan to roll out to all their products eventually. We’ll see.Alienate your loyal customers to (most likely unsuccessfully) prevent people from using the software who wouldn't pay for it anyways... sounds like a winning private equity strategy. 😑
May 29May 29 Apps add to the performance load on the computer, no matter how small— If sceneries start needing apps to run that’s gonna “be a no from me dog.” Enword not allowedtification Continues every day.Orbx already has the most absolute worst garbage store app in this hobby. They’ve definitely lost me as a customer. Edited May 29May 29 by UAL4life UAL
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