July 26, 2025Jul 26 3 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said: Seems like they are tuning 2024 (which is streaming for consoles mostly) then copy pasting settings to 2020 for 'simplicity'. I'm under the impression Xbox users count for around forty percent of users overall but don't quote me on that. However the real value in the sim as far as MS is concerned is Marketplace sales. Since Xbox users can only purchase through the Marketplace they represent a higher percentage of Marketplace sales than PC users. If MS manage to get this on PlayStation you can see where this is going....
July 26, 2025Jul 26 Author 6 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said: If MS manage to get this on PlayStation you can see where this is going.... I'd have no problem with that, IF X-Split/LM step up their scenery game and give us the 'hardcore' PC sim that there is definitely a market for. There doesn't have to be just ONE sim trying to cater for all. Especially as you say when it seems catering for all is no longer the focus. I can't see Asobo having two dev trees, one for console and one for PC. They COULD split 2020/2024 that way (and keep both markets) but it seems that's not the plan. Russell Gough SE London
July 26, 2025Jul 26 It appears these sims are being optimized for Xbox because that's probably the highest revenue stream for Microsoft. Asobo does what Microsoft tells them to do, hence the premature release of 2024. It's all about profits, just like any other business. Just like the Metallica song said, "Sad but True". Pete Locascio Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, Nvidia RTX 5090, Samsung 9100 Pro 2&4 TB Drives, 64 GB RAM, Asus Z-890 motherboard.
July 26, 2025Jul 26 I don’t know if it has anything to do with texture resolutions but some SU16 beta users are saying that 2020 scenery is looking less crisp and has more of that 2024 washed out watercolored cartoonish look. I was looking forward to SU16, but now I’m worried about it. Sure 2024 is great for VFR close to ground pebble counting but in IFR my opinion is that 2020 looks superior.
July 26, 2025Jul 26 I'm not really finding too much worry with the SU16 beta textures. They look reasonable to me, admittedly only with a few flights. They seem to be sharper in 2020 than in 2024, though that may well be my setup. 2020 is performing superbly too. Nearly all maxed out with custom mega airports and Sayintentions traffic, PMDG 737 on a four year old laptop! 2024 performs like an absolute drain, stutterfest. Edited July 26, 2025Jul 26 by Langeveldt
July 27, 2025Jul 27 Author 49 minutes ago, Langeveldt said: PMDG 737 on a four year old laptop! This is what worries me. You can ALWAYS run a high end sim on an older machine by just lowering the gfx settings.. But when it runs fine by default.... Without some clever auto optimise going on (and it is NOT we know that) it's like they're winding back the clock to 2020 hardware, and last gen consoles. Russell Gough SE London
July 27, 2025Jul 27 At first i was disappointed with the High LOD would not work However , the increased DEM with the 2020 maps make up for it. On my system ( beefy 4k) my terrain LOD looks better than SU15 ( that is at default) . The mountain terrain is way more defined ( like a super mesh was applied to it). Flying in the Alps at 30,000 feet is amazing In a nutshell, the texture resolution is somewhere between default SU15 and Map Enhancement High LOD. I still use Map Enhancement ( abet without the High LOD) , because i feel in certain areas ( western Canada especially) . I do have to increase Terrain LOD in the settings though , plus use Image Sharpening in the NVidia control panel ( i use 0.45) which is a sweet spot. night lighting is much improved also. Edited July 27, 2025Jul 27 by planechaser
July 27, 2025Jul 27 Isn't that simply telling us that it wont be needed anymore and default will have high res in the next update? Which is great. Looking forward to su16
July 27, 2025Jul 27 Author 18 minutes ago, mikeymike said: Isn't that simply telling us that it wont be needed anymore and default will have high res in the next update? Which is great. Looking forward to su16 Well that WOULD be great if they could actually tell us that instead of this vagueness. Russell Gough SE London
July 27, 2025Jul 27 3 hours ago, planechaser said: At first i was disappointed with the High LOD would not work However , the increased DEM with the 2020 maps make up for it. On my system ( beefy 4k) my terrain LOD looks better than SU15 ( that is at default) . The mountain terrain is way more defined ( like a super mesh was applied to it). Flying in the Alps at 30,000 feet is amazing In a nutshell, the texture resolution is somewhere between default SU15 and Map Enhancement High LOD. I still use Map Enhancement ( abet without the High LOD) , because i feel in certain areas ( western Canada especially) . I do have to increase Terrain LOD in the settings though , plus use Image Sharpening in the NVidia control panel ( i use 0.45) which is a sweet spot. night lighting is much improved also. Well that's positive to hear. Do you find that using Map Enhancement texture resolution (without the high LOD) looks less clear/sharp than default on SU16?
July 27, 2025Jul 27 1 minute ago, DModjo said: Well that's positive to hear. Do you find that using Map Enhancement texture resolution (without the high LOD) looks less clear/sharp than default on SU16? I would say it looks a bit better than default. Terrain mapping especially in mountainous areas is greatly improved
July 27, 2025Jul 27 5 minutes ago, planechaser said: I would say it looks a bit better than default. Terrain mapping especially in mountainous areas is greatly improved But you mentioned that default map quality now appears at a level between SU15 and Map Enhancement High LOD. Or are you saying the improved DEM gives the illusion of the maps being high LOD?
July 27, 2025Jul 27 6 hours ago, sloppysmusic said: Well that WOULD be great if they could actually tell us that instead of this vagueness. sloppysmusic say hello to Asobo, Asobo say hello to sloppysmusic 😁 Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
July 27, 2025Jul 27 8 hours ago, sloppysmusic said: This is what worries me. You can ALWAYS run a high end sim on an older machine by just lowering the gfx settings.. But when it runs fine by default.... Without some clever auto optimise going on (and it is NOT we know that) it's like they're winding back the clock to 2020 hardware, and last gen consoles. Well it is a 3080 Asus gaming laptop with an i7 so not a potato. 2024 performs really poorly for me, and 2020 is fluid like butter and looks better. That's what worries me.
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