24 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

I’ve never dabbled in cognac. Recommend anything specific?

I'm partial to Remy Martin.  At least when I could afford it. 😄 

Quality, and price, runs from VS, VSO, VSOP, and Napoleon.

If you're affected by sticker shock, ask the store to recommend something of a less prestige brand that is "just as good".

Hook

PS.  If we're to continue this, better make a new thread. 🙂

H.

Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by LHookins

10 hours ago, SayAgain said:

nothing on PS5 yet only XBOX and PC

Wait...  why do you even care?
 

10 hours ago, SayAgain said:

but my point … you see where this capitalism stupidity is taking us?

Ah.  THAT's what this is about.  You don't care about the technical stuff, it's all about running down Capitalism.  Well, that certainly explains the "fear of communism" comment in the original post.

Hook

Here I am and once again, in before the lock. 😉

12 hours ago, LHookins said:

I have absolutely no idea what the level of effort would be to make a PS5 port.  I have no experience with either console.  I am assuming it is possible, and probably not that difficult.  It wouldn't require a redesign from scratch, which would be necessary for a unified SDK.

Those are interesting assumptions, given your admitted lack of understanding of the subject. Apart from convenience, why do you believe they are true?

Cheers

10 minutes ago, Luke said:

Those are interesting assumptions, given your admitted lack of understanding of the subject. Apart from convenience, why do you believe they are true?

Cheers

Hey Luke.

If you have any experience or knowledge, I'm happy to be educated.  My remarks are my best guess of the actual situation.

Thanks.

Hook

Let me expand on that.

I'm guessing the original MSFS was done for the PC, and then either ported to XBOX, or possible was originally designed to work on both platforms.  I'm also guessing that a port from XBOX to PS5 wouldn't be as difficult as a port from PC to XBOX.  Since I don't know anything about either platform, I could be wrong.

We had the PC version released first, hence my first guess above.

As for my real world experience, it's four decades of being elbow-deep in code.  The first half with people willing to pay for my expertise, the second half various personal projects.  

My first personal project after retiring is mentioned here:

https://www.angelfire.com/games3/fng2k/modsadds.html

Hook

Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by LHookins

Just read up on Wasm, then you’ll understand why capitalism has kept MSFS from showing up on PS5.

51 minutes ago, SayAgain said:

Just read up on Wasm, then you’ll understand why capitalism has kept MSFS from showing up on PS5.

AGAIN with the "Capitalism".  

I've already talked about why MSFS won't show up on PS5.  You are reading my posts, right?

WASM... for a flight simulator... right, sure, why not.

I haven't looked at WASM in many years.  But I was introduced to the concept through a C compiler for the Apple 2 in the early 80's.  It could compile to native 6502 or to an interpreted object code, which ran considerably slower.
 

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WASM isn't about speed or performance, but a compilation target. The idea is to be able to run C++ (or other) routines within a web browser [etc]

Very useful for what it's useful for.  But a flight simulator? 

The very concept is so alien to everything I know that I couldn't conceive of it.  But given that it's Microsoft, I can believe it.

There's nothing I could say to make a difference.  Go find a systems level programmer and discuss it with him.

<sigh>

Hook

Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by LHookins

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

I'm guessing the original MSFS was done for the PC, and then either ported to XBOX, or possible was originally designed to work on both platforms.  I'm also guessing that a port from XBOX to PS5 wouldn't be as difficult as a port from PC to XBOX.  Since I don't know anything about either platform, I could be wrong.

XBOX runs a forked and modified version of Windows, PS5 runs on a version of FreeBSD. Does that change your estimation?

Just now, Luke said:

XBOX runs a forked and modified version of Windows, PS5 runs on a version of FreeBSD. Does that change your estimation?

AH!  Thank you very much.

Hook

20 minutes ago, LHookins said:

Very useful for what it's useful for.  But a flight simulator?

It's just a memory-safe cross-platform VM instruction set. So yes, that is kinda useful for a flight simulator.

You guys must be a real hoot at parties🥳

11 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

You guys must be a real hoot at parties🥳

Oh, we are!  At the right kind of parties. 😄 

Hook

Of course the relative position of this thread on the front page of the Hangar Chat shifts up and down. This morning, bleary eyed, I read:

Does Captain Sim impact the flight simmer’s choices?

And thought, cool, I'll have a look at that later, and now realize, duh, it's the same thread I already posted in yesterday, not some different thread.

For whatever reason no one I've ever shown this photo to that I snapped in PRC, Colonel Sanders under the hammer and sickle, thought it was funny. I did when I saw it, and still do.

Skirting politics and remaining vague, I'm not entirely for or against capitalism or communism. Like pizzas with different toppings, each country has its own blend on how it implements things, and one may have one's own particular preferences. But I don't like strict and authoritarian. I don't really like Singapore that much for example, no matter how clean and safe it is. But it's also not terrible, I do actually like it a bit.

I think rather than capitalism or communism, flight simming would get better if both the developers and the users fully admitted it's just a total niche market and that's it. That's neither good nor bad. I just think we can't always have our cake and eat it. Got to accept compromises.

On 7/31/2025 at 11:43 AM, SayAgain said:

MSFS 2020 was definitely kept a secret and launched at a time that was intended to kill off other FS developments (timing was planned).

Which other FS' ?