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Carenado Premier IA

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Why do folks keep buying Carenado's rubbish planes?

Carenado should, instead, repair their busted airplanes in MSFS 2024.

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  • I've generally been a supporter of Carenado.  In the FSX era they'd release a semi buggy product but also release a patch later, or the community would fix it IE Bert Pieke. Unfortunately I've no

  • >Why do folks keep buying Carenado's rubbish planes? For the same reason people still buy ford Focus and Kia Sorentos when there are much better quality and more comfortable Lexus and Mercedes

  • Rubbish, like Beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. For me, Carenado make good product. Their stuff looks really good and is easy to fly without having to learn all sorts of fancy tricks. Which

>Why do folks keep buying Carenado's rubbish planes?

For the same reason people still buy ford Focus and Kia Sorentos when there are much better quality and more comfortable Lexus and Mercedes products available. Each serves a different market, with features and function being driven by price. Not every one has the need, or the ability to pay for the best, when a lower cost alternative will do fine while meeting all of their needs.

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On 10/28/2025 at 12:32 AM, bobcat999 said:

have heard that the default Cessna jets in the sim are really good,

They are!

And though I was initially excited to see this re-dev’d for MSFS, the Default CJ4 and Longitude are so well and fully developed that there’s almost no point in this one with what are likely to be the usual Carenado bugs


 

 

8 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

They are!

And though I was initially excited to see this re-dev’d for MSFS, the Default CJ4 and Longitude are so well and fully developed that there’s almost no point in this one with what are likely to be the usual Carenado bugs


 

 

They are really good, but I like a little variety from time to time. I am not a study sim type, so I have always found the Carenado stuff to be good enough...

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4 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

They are really good, but I like a little variety from time to time. I am not a study sim type, so I have always found the Carenado stuff to be good enough...

 Your membership of the "I'm too cool for Carenado" club has been rescinded 😉

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On 10/27/2025 at 9:59 PM, St Mawgan said:

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Again, when is this getting released?  I'm not finding any info on it.

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On 10/28/2025 at 11:23 PM, Ricardo41 said:

Why do folks keep buying Carenado's rubbish planes?

Carenado should, instead, repair their busted airplanes in MSFS 2024.

If it's a plane we like and there's no other version out there we take what we can get.😶

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17 minutes ago, Dillon said:

Again, when is this getting released?  I'm not finding any info on it.

You'll find an image on their Facebook page along with the word 'Soon ...' 

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16 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

They are really good, but I like a little variety from time to time. I am not a study sim type, so I have always found the Carenado stuff to be good enough...

This is a fair take. 

my perspective is that something like the Piaggio, Citation X, or (former payware) Cirrus Jet on sale are a lot better value than the Carenados. and I say that as a guy who has a bunch of Carenados from older sims. After all, they’ve made a series of genuinely interesting aircraft!

the problem is they leave too many glaring bugs that aren’t fixed, and I’m just not willing to continue to patronize them. 

and to be very clear, I’m not talking about Fidelity/Complexity (a la the expensive Black Square), I’m talking about Features Carenado themselves chose to include which just don’t work reliably.

2 hours ago, Dillon said:

Again, when is this getting released?  I'm not finding any info on it.

IIRC, release after announcement is typically within a week or two, for Carenado. 

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It's got to be better than the Eaglesoft one 😁

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2 hours ago, Dillon said:

If it's a plane we like and there's no other version out there we take what we can get.😶

I mean, yeah: That worked  back when choices were extremely limited, esp in regards the historical paucity of Biz Jets.

But these days? Our cups runneth over 🤙

11 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

I mean, yeah: That worked  back when choices were extremely limited, esp in regards the historical paucity of Biz Jets.

But these days? Our cups runneth over 🤙

Not for Bizjets.😶  We still only have one option for long range Bizjets (PMDG BBJ).  Second what if we want a specific model.  Who else has a Premier IA for MSFS? What's more accurate is we have many Airliners to choose from not Bizjets in the medium and long range class.  I personally would want the Premier as I loved in FS9.  Carenado is my only option for that jet.

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17 minutes ago, Dillon said:

Not for Bizjets.😶  We still only have one option for long range Bizjets (PMDG BBJ).  Second what if we want a specific model.  Who else has a Premier IA for MSFS? What's more accurate is we have many Airliners to choose from not Bizjets in the medium and long range class.  I personally would want the Premier as I loved in FS9.  Carenado is my only option for that jet.

Our perspectives are not so far apart as it may seem. 🤙

But mine has drifted a bit more to wanting a baseline level of value before spending $ solely based on variety. 

for eg: the IRL Citation X has a very strong reputation for speed & range. Even if it’s subsequently been eclipsed by more modern biz jets. 

wheres, afaik, the Premier is a rather unremarkable light jet. Not big, not fast, not long range, not even good at short field ops.

i don’t mean to put it down, just that it’s like a Honda Accord - good, but nothing special. 

I mean, if the Premier is $15-$20 like some of their other addons, sure that’s notably inexpensive, and perhaps worth it. But I think it’s gonna be more like $25-$30. 
and at THAT price, it’s too expensive vs the competition (IMHO). 

now, if it was a Gulfstream 500/600 (or even IV/V)…? Yeah, then the IRL aircraft has enough going for it to be a purchase. 

anyhow, man, if the Premier will make you happy, I WANT you to be happy, so go for it. 😁🤙

42 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Our perspectives are not so far apart as it may seem. 🤙

But mine has drifted a bit more to wanting a baseline level of value before spending $ solely based on variety. 

for eg: the IRL Citation X has a very strong reputation for speed & range. Even if it’s subsequently been eclipsed by more modern biz jets. 

wheres, afaik, the Premier is a rather unremarkable light jet. Not big, not fast, not long range, not even good at short field ops.

i don’t mean to put it down, just that it’s like a Honda Accord - good, but nothing special. 

I mean, if the Premier is $15-$20 like some of their other addons, sure that’s notably inexpensive, and perhaps worth it. But I think it’s gonna be more like $25-$30. 
and at THAT price, it’s too expensive vs the competition (IMHO). 

now, if it was a Gulfstream 500/600 (or even IV/V)…? Yeah, then the IRL aircraft has enough going for it to be a purchase. 

anyhow, man, if the Premier will make you happy, I WANT you to be happy, so go for it. 😁🤙

 

It's more nostalgia from FS9 for me when it comes to the Premier.  I agree with you on your points concerning the real-world aircraft.  Gulfstream has been anal for years about their birds being brought to FS, very sad to say the least.  That being said, there's absolutely no excuse concerning something like the Global Express.  It's never been done to any meaningful detail in any version of FS going back to when the real-world model first took flight.  How can developers do countless CRJ's over the years and not the company's business jet.  Bombardier is not hostile to FS, there's a market for the bird in the sim world, and developers can get access to it especially Aerosoft who has relationship with the company.  Everyone wants to do these lite and/or short-range jets which is really getting tiring.  I was happy to see the CitationX in MSFS which brought another Longitude (mid-range) class to the sim (with an interactive cabin which Asobo refuses to do in 2020).😵‍💫 

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