March 4Mar 4 Totally worth it for anyone on another sim, or new simmers, of course. not a concern, but it’s a real clue as to how demand for 2020 has cratered. Edited March 4Mar 4 by UrgentSiesta
March 4Mar 4 42 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said: Totally worth it for anyone on another sim, or new simmers, of course. I think this is also pretty standard strategy for older versions of games. 2020 is now approaching 6 years since release so reduce the price significantly and see if some people will pick it up and try it, and likely a percentage of them like it enough to buy 2024 and stay with it. I would expect to see more of these in the coming months. They don't have to reduce the price of their flagship product to try to get more users. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
March 4Mar 4 User error or Incompetence? You don't even know who I am to make such an word not allowed statement like that. Tells me what kind of person you are and are not.
March 4Mar 4 Yes worth it 💯 i actually am flying more so in 2020 as i have it looking and performing great. I have a high end system also. And i have 2024 but i keep firing up 2020 lol Mike
March 4Mar 4 Probably many people are buying msfs at $24 because in the last few days there are more users in 2020 than in 2024 according to data from simplayerstats.😜 Edited March 4Mar 4 by LIML2020
March 4Mar 4 4 years ago, the debate was P3D vs msfs and now it shifted to msfs vs msfs24. Things never really change. Can't wait for msfs28! lol
March 4Mar 4 5 hours ago, sdirand said: 4 years ago, the debate was P3D vs msfs and now it shifted to msfs vs msfs24. Things never really change. Can't wait for msfs28! lol Even long (long) before it, while some folks here, I know, can even go further back: I recall there was intense debate between FS9 and FSX users. “How dare they make some (FSX) airplanes exclusively with a virtual cockpit…🙂…and no support for 2D, presumably more helpful in the final landing phase…?” Nonetheless, we still have FS9 users around right here…
March 4Mar 4 Some critically acclaimed and well loved AAA games go for $5 on Steam after a while. I wouldn't take this as a bad omen, if I were you. 5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX 9070XT.
March 4Mar 4 21 hours ago, JYW said: I was thinking they were great points, until the last one 😄 They just aren't that different side by side. Stare long enough at any 2 similar objects and you'll start to see subtle differences. I don't do much of that. Win10Pro 22H2-19045.7184 IntelCorei7-3770K GigabyteGA-Z68XP-UD3 32GBGSkillCL7-8-8-24 AsusRTX2070OC8GB 1TBCrucialMX500SSD 2 TB PNY CS900 (x3)1TBRAWMushkinSSDs LGBlueRayBurner RosewillChallengerTowerBlack CorsairRM750wPSU X56HOTAS TtesportsCommanderKeyboardMousecombo TrackIR5Pro 34inUltraWideScreenLG2560x1080p TM2xMFDCougar OculusQuest2 InateckKU5211PCIe3.2 LTERIVERPCIeG2S4 TMobileHomeInternet5GMSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US Windows 11 Home 25H2 26200.8524 - i7 14700F MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II RTX 5060ti OC 16GB 32GB DDR5 5600mhz 2TB MSI nVME 4TB Crucial nVME 4TB SPCC SATA SSD P-3 4TB SSD 650w Gold PSU Monitor LG 2560x1080p 34in
March 4Mar 4 23 minutes ago, udidwht said: They just aren't that different side by side. Stare long enough at any 2 similar objects and you'll start to see subtle differences. I don't do much of that. This is a bit of an extreme example but go compare the grand canyon between the two sims and see if you keep that opinion. Heck, just compare any of the trees! 5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX 9070XT.
March 5Mar 5 5 hours ago, udidwht said: They just aren't that different side by side. Stare long enough at any 2 similar objects and you'll start to see subtle differences. I don't do much of that. Clearly not! I mean there are so many differences and improvements been the two - not even subtle. Things like the ground mesh resolution being an order of magnitute higher in 2024. Not to mention a huge overhaul of the lighting. The clouds aren't that much better I will give you that. Also, why would it just be about visuals. 2024 has a significant upgrade of the flight dynamics engine, with integrated computationl flight dynamics. The audio engine was improved to be consistantly DVD rate (48kHz, instead of a mixture of 16, 24 and 44.1kHz in 2020). But yes, if you don't stare at it too long, they both look the same..... 😉 Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 5Mar 5 5 hours ago, Krakin said: This is a bit of an extreme example but go compare the grand canyon between the two sims and see if you keep that opinion. Heck, just compare any of the trees! I think it's a case of confirmation bias as to his decision to stay with 2020 😉 I mean, there is literally nothing wrong with anyone deciding to stay with the old sim. It's just that so many 2020 die-hards make these silly statements, as if to justify their decision to themselves. Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 5Mar 5 23 hours ago, blueshark747 said: User error or Incompetence has what to do with the price of MSFS 2020?🤣 How would you possibly know that it was due to a user error or his incompetence? What a nasty, ridiculously unjustified comment to make. I seem to remember threads from you not that long ago where you were having problems and blaming the addon .... 😄 @JamesIL - Amongst the 100s of good people here, there are some kids that are just looking for a reaction. Best ignored 👍 Edited March 5Mar 5 by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
March 5Mar 5 Pretty envious of new customers now jumping on a $24 priced MSFS2020. The state of the sim post SU16 is leaps and bounds better than my initial $100+ dollar release purchase in 2020. Great visuals, great performance and a vast heathy catalogue of ironed out now discounted as well third party addons over the past 6 years. $24 is a steal especially for VR users who finally wanna give it a go! Even through all the bugs and disappointments MS/Asobo put us through. Overall Its been a great 6 year roller coaster as a day one buyer. Especially when you can come to terms with the reality of ATC just not being a priority for the new platform at all.🤣😂 Asus Maximus X Hero Z370/ Windows 10 MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled) 8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled) 32GB DDR4 3000 Ram 500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
March 5Mar 5 Author 46 minutes ago, blueshark747 said: Pretty envious of new customers now jumping on a $24 priced MSFS2020. they will envy YOU. you had all the fun already for 5 years for only $ 70 more, i.e. for a whopping $ 14 more per year. 🤣 AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
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