August 14Aug 14 Like tittle says,Woow men the VRAM is very nice optimized now especially when airborne,almost free of sttuters,now nice ILS glidepath following.This is the right direction.How is going on for you?.TTurbo. Edited August 14Aug 14 by TTurbo
August 14Aug 14 I don't know about the specifics about how this is, but yes. I'm getting much better performance.For example, I loaded up and flew the PMDG B738 and my frame rates were 35-60fps and higher. Before this update, I had parked this aircraft because, after the high-res update, my frames were really bad.Happy Richard Chafey i7-8700K @4.8GHz - 32Gb @3200 - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero - EVGA RTX3090 - 3840x2160 Res - KBSim Gunfighter - Thrustmaster Warthog dual throttles - Crosswind V3 pedals MSFS 2020, DCS
August 15Aug 15 Just a note that it is good, but they nerfed the LOD - which is why everyone is getting a good performance boost from SU5. We're back up to about SU4 performance but with worse visuals.There are a lot of good things from SU6 so I'm not trying to be a debbie downer. But this is why it's performing better than SU5.I did some rough comparisons and TLOD 400 is pretty much like TLOD200 in SU4. TLOD 400 is like TLOD 100 in MSFS 2020.... But we already knew Asobo disabled the 512x512 ground textures (that 2020 used) and went to 256x256 in 2024. Edited August 15Aug 15 by ryanbatc | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 15Aug 15 I'm getting excellent results with Dynamic FG. Is anyone else trying it out?SU6 visuals are also excellent IMO.Edit: fast becoming my favorite fix is the ATC window opens / closes without delay. The menus just seem faster even when not flying. 👍dd Edited August 15Aug 15 by Sky_Pilot071
August 15Aug 15 2 hours ago, ryanbatc said:Just a note that it is good, but they nerfed the LOD - which is why everyone is getting a good performance boost from SU5. We're back up to about SU4 performance but with worse visuals.There are a lot of good things from SU6 so I'm not trying to be a debbie downer. But this is why it's performing better than SU5.I did some rough comparisons and TLOD 400 is pretty much like TLOD200 in SU4. TLOD 400 is like TLOD 100 in MSFS 2020.... But we already knew Asobo disabled the 512x512 ground textures (that 2020 used) and went to 256x256 in 2024.yes this was being reported ad infinitum during the beta and I've seen plenty of posts & reports since SU6 was released that this was the case, we certainly can't have everything and whilst extra performance is warranted I think it's clear that Asobo are going about it the wrong way with these constant regressions. It's clear to me (and others) that they're lacking the core optimisation skillset so are just hacking away at "simple" graphical options like LODs (forever an issue) & Textures (512x512 went AWOL over a year ago, just one example) in order to get that performance boost, it's strange to think they don't have a proper handle on the very in-house engine they developed. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
August 15Aug 15 Something else that has much improved is the ground traffic for smoothness and night lighting near Denver. Huge improvement over SU5. Using LOD =200.dd
August 15Aug 15 42 minutes ago, MarcG said:yes this was being reported ad infinitum during the beta and I've seen plenty of posts & reports since SU6 was released that this was the case, we certainly can't have everything and whilst extra performance is warranted I think it's clear that Asobo are going about it the wrong way with these constant regressions. It's clear to me (and others) that they're lacking the core optimisation skillset so are just hacking away at "simple" graphical options like LODs (forever an issue) & Textures (512x512 went AWOL over a year ago, just one example) in order to get that performance boost, it's strange to think they don't have a proper handle on the very in-house engine they developed.If that is the case then they already realized there's core aspects of the engine that they can't tinker with any further. If people want better performance, it'll have to come from somewhere.
August 15Aug 15 Commercial Member 3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:Just a note that it is good, but they nerfed the LOD - which is why everyone is getting a good performance boost from SU5. We're back up to about SU4 performance but with worse visuals.There are a lot of good things from SU6 so I'm not trying to be a debbie downer. But this is why it's performing better than SU5.I did some rough comparisons and TLOD 400 is pretty much like TLOD200 in SU4. TLOD 400 is like TLOD 100 in MSFS 2020.... But we already knew Asobo disabled the 512x512 ground textures (that 2020 used) and went to 256x256 in 2024.All we needed was 2020 terrain with 2024 lighting and pyhsics
August 15Aug 15 11 minutes ago, rick celik said:All we needed was 2020 terrain with 2024 lighting and pyhsicsAgreed. The LOD processing changes also made issues harder to solve for developers
August 15Aug 15 47 minutes ago, Nandengo12 said:If that is the case then they already realized there's core aspects of the engine that they can't tinker with any further. If people want better performance, it'll have to come from somewhere.at the expense of poor visuals though, that's the key issue here that they're degrading the visuals far too much. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
August 15Aug 15 I have not noticed degraded visuals on my PC, but maybe the small 24" monitor masks the effect? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
Saturday at 01:33 PM5 days 4 hours ago, rick celik said:All we needed was 2020 terrain with 2024 lighting and pyhsicsI do admit I was really excited to see that high res of imagery in 2024.The quality and clarity of 2024 has been repeatedly cut down so Xbox can run this sim. I've said it time and time again. An Xbox will never be able to run this sim as well as someone who spent 4-5k USD on a PC running a rtx 4090 and 9800x3d.It's extremely frustrating that 2024 continues to be downgraded visually.Somehow we need 2 versions. I mean we already have that - Microsoft pushes console updates via a different pipeline than PC. We know this because they actually screwed up the M600 release. They pushed the Xbox version for the PC.But still, we don't want the visual downgrade on PC. At least I don't. Maybe some of you aren't noticing the difference or just don't care. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
Saturday at 01:44 PM5 days Xbox is where the money is. Pete Locascio Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, Nvidia RTX 5090, Samsung 9100 Pro 2&4 TB Drives, 64 GB RAM, Asus Z-890 motherboard.
Saturday at 01:53 PM5 days 18 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:I do admit I was really excited to see that high res of imagery in 2024.The quality and clarity of 2024 has been repeatedly cut down so Xbox can run this sim. I've said it time and time again. An Xbox will never be able to run this sim as well as someone who spent 4-5k USD on a PC running a rtx 4090 and 9800x3d.It's extremely frustrating that 2024 continues to be downgraded visually.Somehow we need 2 versions. I mean we already have that - Microsoft pushes console updates via a different pipeline than PC. We know this because they actually screwed up the M600 release. They pushed the Xbox version for the PC.But still, we don't want the visual downgrade on PC. At least I don't. Maybe some of you aren't noticing the difference or just don't care.Xbox gaming revenue is megabillions. Our PC community is not anywhere near that. It sucks, but money talks... Edited Saturday at 01:53 PM5 days by Nandengo12
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