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It does look as lessons from the past have not been learned regardless of how good or bad this new sim is regarding addon strategy.

Dtg sell FSX on steam can not see Dtg stopping that.

Yes i agree; p3d price tag is costly; but the sim is reasonable fully functioning sim; to me there is no preference; Fsw is what is and P3d is what it is; i use all sime available out there really. Some simmer rather avoid the pain of Early access stages; and prefer to splash the $$$ to be up and running straight away because of hobby time limitations etc etc. Yes Fsw have nice ideas but still have a long way to go at the moment.

well i do not agree with the 'which is nothing but bug fixes and sim director updates in p3dv4 here is the list of the changes from v3 to v4 64-bit simulation architecture Unicode compatible Modernized User Interface (UI) design for quick navigation and customization Updated native virtual reality (VR) support for Oculus Rift and HTC Vive Updated vector data (coastlines, lakes, rivers, roads, rails, parks, streams and utility lines) for: Africa Middle East (Israel, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and more) Southeast Europe (Greece, Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania, Black Sea, and more) Southeast Asia (Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, and more) Updated custom 3D model placement in Athens, Egypt, Israel, Dubai and Hong Kong Hundreds of new updated generic 3D model buildings in Tel Aviv and Hong Kong Updated Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM) 90m digital elevation for Southeast Asia and Middle East regions Updated native mission gauges to Scaleform Views and panels can now be docked into any undocked view Updated multiplayer voice chat codec – higher quality chat audio Expanded ribbon drawing capabilities in the Navigation Visuals screen including drawing based on vehicle type and the ability to change color per category Added video recording capability. Can be assigned to a key event in the UI. Control Tower can now be selected in the Select Airport screen Custom cameras can now be saved on a scenario or global level Material temperatures – IR sensor views now react accordingly 3D trees (SpeedTree) integrated into autogen system. This feature can be toggled on and off in the UI under Options – World (Dynamic 3D Autogen Vegetation). New 3D rain/snow system. This feature can be toggled on and off in the UI under Options – Weather (Detailed Precipitation). Dynamic lighting support Support for local SpeedTree wind effects Support for higher resolution ground textures Autogen visibility range can now be configured Updated various textures including runways, taxiways, hangars, and terminals Added SceneryLodOrigin and TerrainLodOrigin fields to camera definitions preventing terrain paging issues when switching between certain views. New and updated default vehicles: F-22 Raptor (Updated) F-35A Lightning II (Updated) F-16A F-16AM F-16C Lockheed Electra 10A Milviz P-38L Sikorsky MH-60K (Updated) Sikorsky S-70A (Updated) Sikorsky UH-60A (Updated) Sikorsky UH-60L (Updated) Sikorsky UH-60M (Updated) Sikorsky UH-60Q (Updated) New default avatars: Army Infantry Navy Male Blue Camouflage Rebel Male (1/2) Soldier Desert Soldier Jungle Soldier Spec Ops Soldier Swat Soldier Winter Arab Male Casual (1/2/3) Steering Set controls can now be set in the UI Added new white smoke marker particle effect Professional Plus Only F-16 aircraft has weapons and countermeasures Specific avatars have weapons New defensive flare countermeasure Additional advanced graphics features for low latency training devices SDK and SimConnect Compiler and SDK updated to Visual Studio 2015 Scripting capabilities (Scenery/Model/Material) Added PDK functions to draw primitive objects Reorganized and updated SDK Documentation and samples Support for loading managed dll add-ons Avatar object collision can now be configured Added temperature value and scripting to materials Specific cameras can be configured to not output sound when active Custom materials now supported for runways, taxiways, and aprons Added PDK service for reporting plugin errors Added IsSelectableVehicle override to Aircraft and Sim configs allowing vehicle to bypass the category based selection filter Precipitation rate now exposed through ISimObject, Simulation, and Object variables Added rope visual effect support to SDK Added detail texture material scripting support including offset, rotation, blend weight, blend mode, and alpha channel support The PDK is now accessible through the Panels SDK Panel API now available through the PDK Added Environment Force Service to PDK Added IgnorePostProcess entry to camera definition to disable HDR or FXAA on a per camera basis Added interfaces to play sounds in xml gauges using Lua Added second UV channel in model exports and files Exposed Final Alpha Blend material property to material scripts Weather information now available through RPN and Lua scripts Added UV offset property to material scripts and shaders Update materials to support additional Detail Alpha Flags Updated Material Scripting to support second UV Channel and new Detail Properties Friendly names can now be added to control events

Steam users are a different market

Never liked steam for this exact reason

there is some info here http://www.pcpilot.net/2017/09/27/prepar3d-v4-1-announced/

Nice to see LM working very hard !

well Chock your posts are so long it is easy to get lost in there - they make a good read however - spot the trend fsx se - fsw train sim - csv heavy haul however ........ and surely time will tell

Steam gamers will not spend $. 20. 30. Or 50. For an fs add on. Very unlikely at this point

Dtg and the sdk is a long story only few know how it look 👀 and very likely will stay that way

To be honest i do not get your point there is quite few weather engines already out there very well capable fly real weather infacts as is now i fly real weather in all sim without any problem

Dlc even before the sim is completed ??

whatever but fsw weather is static; that should be resolved first; than anything else as if stay that way i will throw my fsw to the thrush

yes true fsw include accufeel; but that is not new either to flightsimulation - yes is included as default - very true - but the fsw terrain engine is mostly unchanged from fsx; that is why fsx - addons terrain based scenery work in fsw as they are, and to be honest they also show exactly as in fsx or p3d. I am comparing the scenery and how it look in fsw - not the simulators itselfs.

put it the way we like it - either than true sky different clouds i see no other difference - using high res photorealistic + TREEX-LEGACY either in fsx p3d or fsw

it is not a matter of being positive or negative; that is open to personal interpretation anyway. not saying that the work presented on the video look good or bad (on the video) - or that fsw is bad or good all i say is that photorealistic and autogen is nothing new and if anybody like this kind of scenery there is lots already out there; as is not just being invented yesterday : just an example xplane look at france vfr works to give another example - fsx / p3d - and possibly also work in fsw http://www.francevfr.com/product_vfrlanp3d.htm Frank Dainese works: http://scenarialpinifsx.blogspot.co.uk/ maybe those are also best scenery ever ?

sorry but i fail to see what is so special about photorealistic and autogen when we had it already for 20 years? do i miss something ??

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Yea sorry misunderstood your point

Clear

Nor that the other sims are stopping to develop either and who knows

Lots of stuttering on that video it is because of recording?? Or performance related?

On steam competition is fierce those 67 millions have 67 millions games to play with a couple of millions being high tech modern graphics stuff The majority of Stem users when look at sim graphics will be put off instantly as they are used to richer contents than us

I think i see them before