February 9, 201016 yr Hi Dave,For starters, I don't fly DEFAULT aircraft, 99.99% of my flight time is spent in the Level-D Boeing 767-300ER. Since I do not use the default aircraft you specify, there is ZERO value to me. I specifically asked about AI aircraft for one reason, that is all I'm looking for as far as this product is concerned.Seeing how your menu screens shown on Flight1's web site shows a title of "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer" and not the New Default Replacement Sound Sets For The 737,747,A320, CRJ and Learjer, one would not have to rely on the fact that I'm getting a good value because your soundsets work while flying default aircraft. Did I mention, I don't fly default aircraft. Your ad on Flight1's web site push the fact that it works with AI aircraft, your menus push this fact even further with the title "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer". Yet in your quote (from an earlier post) below you make it sound as though I'm lucky I'm getting this added (PLUS) feature.Take a look at your ad under the heading Ambience with Attitude! Fourth paragraph, your ad states the following:"Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly."Now you add the PLUS to changing the DEFAULT aircraft sounds over the installation of AIsounds. So which is it, do I get AIaircraft sounds with a PLUS of adding these sounds to my default aircraft or is it the other way around?.One can only expect this product to live up to the hype "YOU" instilled with the following statement."Now there comes an upgrade for Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!Audio Environment totally transforms your flying experience: whether you're sitting on the ground listening to the aircraft around you or enroute at 30,000ft, FSX will sound like an all-new sim.Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly.Hear the difference as you start the engines, with realistic spool-up and whine and feel the deep roar as you thunder down the runway - FSX will sound like an all-new sim!"Since FSX plays AIaircraft engine(s) running sounds immediately, this product can only play the startup sound "OVER" the engine sound already playing, which drowns out or eliminates the effect. Depending on the aircraft / distance to the aircraft in question, you more than likely will not here the effect at all.Since FSX turns the AIaircraft engine(s) off immediately, there is a pause between engine stop and Audio Environment's shutdown effect, again unrealistic.In all fairness to the product, I knew I was looking at a lenghty install because of the custom AI aircraft installed in my system. After a three hour manual install of various aisound folders I now sat at KATL to here these "Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!" sounds.Bottom line, these blow your ears off sounds don't exist.1. To hear AIaircraft startup (spool-up/whine) sound over the engine running sound, you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft. Even then, in most cases you miss most of the startup sound effect - unrealistic2. To hear the AIaircraft engine reverser sound after touchdown, you need to be right on top of the landing AIaircraft, move a few feet from the AIaircraft and the sound is gone. - unrealistic3. AIaircraft taxi sound, again you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft or you will not hear the sound effect - unrealistic4. The startup sounds you hear at Flight1's web site are deceiving, they don't sound like that in the sim with AIaircraft because FSX controls AIaircraft engine sounds (the engines are already running), the spool-up/whine effects are drowned out and/or are eliminated depending on the AIaircraft. Nice statement to make without any expanation of why you don't like the product What is it you don't like? Kind of a pointless negative statement in my opinion! Have you tried the aircraft sounds in the default flyable airliners. If you had they retail at $15 each from TSS and this pack gives you 5 sets. Pretty good value. Plus you get a FREE utility to install those sounds into any aircraft. Plus you get the AI traffic which works with the main AI traffic packages. I don't see why you are so negative! Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 9, 201016 yr Commercial Member Hi Dave,For starters, I don't fly DEFAULT aircraft, 99.99% of my flight time is spent in the Level-D Boeing 767-300ER. Since I do not use the default aircraft you specify, there is ZERO value to me. I specifically asked about AI aircraft for one reason, that is all I'm looking for as far as this product is concerned.Seeing how your menu screens shown on Flight1's web site shows a title of "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer" and not the New Default Replacement Sound Sets For The 737,747,A320, CRJ and Learjer, one would not have to rely on the fact that I'm getting a good value because your soundsets work while flying default aircraft. Did I mention, I don't fly default aircraft. Your ad on Flight1's web site push the fact that it works with AI aircraft, your menus push this fact even further with the title "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer". Yet in your quote (from an earlier post) below you make it sound as though I'm lucky I'm getting this added (PLUS) feature.Take a look at your ad under the heading Ambience with Attitude! Fourth paragraph, your ad states the following:"Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly."Now you add the PLUS to changing the DEFAULT aircraft sounds over the installation of AIsounds. So which is it, do I get AIaircraft sounds with a PLUS of adding these sounds to my default aircraft or is it the other way around?.One can only expect this product to live up to the hype "YOU" instilled with the following statement."Now there comes an upgrade for Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!Audio Environment totally transforms your flying experience: whether you're sitting on the ground listening to the aircraft around you or enroute at 30,000ft, FSX will sound like an all-new sim.Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly.Hear the difference as you start the engines, with realistic spool-up and whine and feel the deep roar as you thunder down the runway - FSX will sound like an all-new sim!"Since FSX plays AIaircraft engine(s) running sounds immediately, this product can only play the startup sound "OVER" the engine sound already playing, which drowns out or eliminates the effect. Depending on the aircraft / distance to the aircraft in question, you more than likely will not here the effect at all.Since FSX turns the AIaircraft engine(s) off immediately, there is a pause between engine stop and Audio Environment's shutdown effect, again unrealistic.In all fairness to the product, I knew I was looking at a lenghty install because of the custom AI aircraft installed in my system. After a three hour manual install of various aisound folders I now sat at KATL to here these "Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!" sounds.Bottom line, these blow your ears off sounds don't exist.1. To hear AIaircraft startup (spool-up/whine) sound over the engine running sound, you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft. Even then, in most cases you miss most of the startup sound effect - unrealistic2. To hear the AIaircraft engine reverser sound after touchdown, you need to be right on top of the landing AIaircraft, move a few feet from the AIaircraft and the sound is gone. - unrealistic3. AIaircraft taxi sound, again you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft or you will not hear the sound effect - unrealistic4. The startup sounds you hear at Flight1's web site are deceiving, they don't sound like that in the sim with AIaircraft because FSX controls AIaircraft engine sounds (the engines are already running), the spool-up/whine effects are drowned out and/or are eliminated depending on the AIaircraft.The product states very clearly what it does. In both AI and full sound set replacement. In terms of everything included in the package, it is still very good value for money. The sounds on the web site and videos are recorded from the sim, so are exactly what you get.The Configuration Manager screens actually show both tabs, not just AI, it happens to be open on the AI tab. Not because that is the main part of the product, one tab had to be open / first. The copy is written to explain all aspects of what you get in the product. I challenge you to fly the default LearJet with FSX sounds, then load the sounds and tell me it is no better, or not powerful. Sure you won't use that as you explained, but it is part of the product and adds to the "value" for the users who do want default aircraft replacement. Just not YOU.If you haven't tried the sounds in default flyable aircraft, you are missing a big feature of the product. They are a massive improvement over default. Likewise with the AI sounds, the external sounds ARE loud and powerful, and the internal sounds are quieter which many users have agreed is realistic. Perhaps you haven't configured your system correctly. Are you using 2.1 / Stereo speaker setting?By all means express your opinion, but advising people not to buy a product because YOU only want a small part of that product that doesn't meet your perception is plain wrong! As Flight1 have a refund policy, it is not as though we are trying to cheat you! Anyone who wants to try the product can do so at no risk. We have had hundreds of downloads in the few weeks since release (with no marketing yet until the box release) and only about 3 refunds. Those were because of the MTX problem which is now fixed and waiting release of version 1.2.I am very sorry you feel the product is not for you, but if you look at the other comments in this thread, it is a well received product and did not deserve the very negative post.
February 9, 201016 yr Hi Dave,The system is setup for stereo as per your instructions, the volume is set at 70%, and I've set the sound fader as follows.[sOUND]SOUND_FADER1=0.700000As I said, I do not fly the default aircraft in question, nor do I fly addons of this type where the sounds included with this package could be utilized elsewhere. If a particular addon aircraft sounds environment was what I was looking for, I would of purchased one of your (TSS) aircraft specific addon sound packages. My only intrest with this product is for use with AIaircraft. The two problems listed above, numbers 1 & 2 are not correctable within FSX so no patch will ever be forthcoming. For AIaircraft use, that in-and-of-itself hinders about 50% of the package. That to "ME" makes this product worth less than the $40.00 asking price. If you haven't tried the sounds in default flyable aircraft, you are missing a big feature of the product. They are a massive improvement over default. Likewise with the AI sounds, the external sounds ARE loud and powerful, and the internal sounds are quieter which many users have agreed is realistic. Perhaps you haven't configured your system correctly. Are you using 2.1 / Stereo speaker setting? Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 9, 201016 yr Commercial Member Hi Dave,The system is setup for stereo as per your instructions, the volume is set at 70%, and I've set the sound fader as follows.[sOUND]SOUND_FADER1=0.700000As I said, I do not fly the default aircraft in question, nor do I fly addons of this type where the sounds included with this package could be utilized elsewhere. If a particular addon aircraft sounds environment was what I was looking for, I would of purchased one of your (TSS) aircraft specific addon sound packages. My only intrest with this product is for use with AIaircraft. The two problems listed above, numbers 1 & 2 are not correctable within FSX so no patch will ever be forthcoming. For AIaircraft use, that in-and-of-itself hinders about 50% of the package. That to "ME" makes this product worth less than the $40.00 asking price.You may have perhaps assumed the links for "startup" sound files demonstrated on the product page were the AI aircraft? In which case I apologise for any misunderstanding. They are the full sound packages and constitute the bulk of the product. The two bottom links are the sounds you hear from the AI external view. As I said before, if you don't like it for any reason, then please feel free to obtain a refund. You can obtain a refund here. Let me know if you have any problem and I will personally follow it up.
February 9, 201016 yr Hi Dave,Although I've never used Flight1's Money Back Guarantee in the past I'm sure I'll have no problems, but if I do its good to know you'll personally follow up with my refund.Thank you You may have perhaps assumed the links for "startup" sound files demonstrated on the product page were the AI aircraft? In which case I apologise for any misunderstanding. They are the full sound packages and constitute the bulk of the product. The two bottom links are the sounds you hear from the AI external view. As I said before, if you don't like it for any reason, then please feel free to obtain a refund. You can obtain a refund here. Let me know if you have any problem and I will personally follow it up. Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
February 17, 201016 yr I'll add in my thought sas well after using AE for a month. I too am very disappointed in the product due to the fact that from inside the cockpit, you can't hear anything. From outside the cockput, you can if you're relatively close to the AI plane. But I don't fly my planes from outside the cockpit. What's the point of buying a sound product if it can't be heard from inside the cockput? This may be realistic as some say and some like, but it defeats the purpose of buying the product if you can only hear the sounds some of the time and not from the main view, that being the cockpit.I was and still am a big fan of FSHotSFX as you could hear all of the AI sounds from both within and outside the cockpit. There was nothing like sitting in your cockpit holding at the edge of the runway and listening to a jet land and use its reversers. With AE, I hear nothing. Realistic, maybe. Fun, definitely not.I'm using MyTraffic 5.2b and 2 speaker setup with an Xtreme Gamer sound card.
February 17, 201016 yr After using the product for sometime now, I completely agree with Wallyworlds assessment!Realistic maybe but self defeating 100%. Originally I stated I would probably buy the product again but now after using it for quite some time I would certainly NOT purchase this product again. I like Flight One, I own alot of their products and their refund policy is fair but, AE Airliner edition is certainly Not the compainion I had hoped it would be for UT2. Thumbs down! RE Thomason Jr.
April 15, 201016 yr Commercial Member Hi Dave,Although I've never used Flight1's Money Back Guarantee in the past I'm sure I'll have no problems, but if I do its good to know you'll personally follow up with my refund.Thank youFlight1 and TSS are pleased to announce that we have produced an update for Audio Environment which enhances Ultimate Traffic 2 AI traffic sounds heard from inside the cockpit.http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...D=198527#198527We are hoping but cannot promise that the other sound packs will also be updated at this stage.Dave.After using the product for sometime now, I completely agree with Wallyworlds assessment!Realistic maybe but self defeating 100%. Originally I stated I would probably buy the product again but now after using it for quite some time I would certainly NOT purchase this product again. I like Flight One, I own alot of their products and their refund policy is fair but, AE Airliner edition is certainly Not the compainion I had hoped it would be for UT2. Thumbs down!Please see the UT2 update post here.http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...D=198527#198527I'll add in my thought sas well after using AE for a month. I too am very disappointed in the product due to the fact that from inside the cockpit, you can't hear anything. From outside the cockput, you can if you're relatively close to the AI plane. But I don't fly my planes from outside the cockpit. What's the point of buying a sound product if it can't be heard from inside the cockput? This may be realistic as some say and some like, but it defeats the purpose of buying the product if you can only hear the sounds some of the time and not from the main view, that being the cockpit.I was and still am a big fan of FSHotSFX as you could hear all of the AI sounds from both within and outside the cockpit. There was nothing like sitting in your cockpit holding at the edge of the runway and listening to a jet land and use its reversers. With AE, I hear nothing. Realistic, maybe. Fun, definitely not.I'm using MyTraffic 5.2b and 2 speaker setup with an Xtreme Gamer sound card.We have taken user views on board and enhanced the sounds from inside for UT2 users only at the moment. We are hoping TSS will update all AI packages but can't promise that at the moment.http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...D=198527#198527Dave.I am using it. Sounds are from TSS and so far I have mixed feelings with it. I am using it in conjunction with UT2 and yes it does make a difference as you can hear jets spooling up, reverser effects, and nice spacial panning effects etc. You can even replace the sound of default or add on aircraft with the sounds from this add on if you choose to do so which is pretty cool. That being said...Where I have a sustained disapointment with the program is that inside some aircraft you can be very well insulated and not hear much at all. Also some of the effects are limited by FSX itself and are documented in the instructions which I believe is available for viewing prior to purchase. The insulated effect inside the cockpit is even more pronounced when using certain aircraft which makes sense but I wish was adjustable. For example I like flying the PMDG J41 and prior to engine start you can hear aircraft around you but once you fire up the turboprops you're not going to hear much else. Yeah, this might be real to life but it sort of defeats the program right? So you end up spending a pretty good amount of money for the ambient effects that last a few minutes prior to engine start and that's about it. Also I found that listening to the sounds from the ultralight at KDFW some of the sounds seemed "clipped" rather than fading out or away.What would be nice but not sure if it would be possible? would be to have an independent audio control so you could turn up the audio effects of the program without affecting the user's aircraft. Adjusting the engine sound level in the FSX menu adjust everything across the board so while the AI effects are louder so are your aircraft and in the end doing so yields no benefit. It might not be realistic but it would be nice to be able to turn up the A/I's engine volume separately so that they would be faintly audible even in a running turboprop.So would I buy it again? Yeah probably but I don't feel its as good a value as I have come to expect from Flight One. With there return policy you don't have much to lose you can always ask for a refund. I would not be suprised to see a tweak or an app to come along in the future to allow for what I described above and if that were the case my opinion of the program would surly turn more positive. Given the title I bet a GA or Prop edition will follow in the future.RobertHi Robert,As you are using UT2, you may be interested in the update here:http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...D=198527#198527Dave.I am using it. Sounds are from TSS and so far I have mixed feelings with it. I am using it in conjunction with UT2 and yes it does make a difference as you can hear jets spooling up, reverser effects, and nice spacial panning effects etc. You can even replace the sound of default or add on aircraft with the sounds from this add on if you choose to do so which is pretty cool. That being said...Where I have a sustained disapointment with the program is that inside some aircraft you can be very well insulated and not hear much at all. Also some of the effects are limited by FSX itself and are documented in the instructions which I believe is available for viewing prior to purchase. The insulated effect inside the cockpit is even more pronounced when using certain aircraft which makes sense but I wish was adjustable. For example I like flying the PMDG J41 and prior to engine start you can hear aircraft around you but once you fire up the turboprops you're not going to hear much else. Yeah, this might be real to life but it sort of defeats the program right? So you end up spending a pretty good amount of money for the ambient effects that last a few minutes prior to engine start and that's about it. Also I found that listening to the sounds from the ultralight at KDFW some of the sounds seemed "clipped" rather than fading out or away.What would be nice but not sure if it would be possible? would be to have an independent audio control so you could turn up the audio effects of the program without affecting the user's aircraft. Adjusting the engine sound level in the FSX menu adjust everything across the board so while the AI effects are louder so are your aircraft and in the end doing so yields no benefit. It might not be realistic but it would be nice to be able to turn up the A/I's engine volume separately so that they would be faintly audible even in a running turboprop.So would I buy it again? Yeah probably but I don't feel its as good a value as I have come to expect from Flight One. With there return policy you don't have much to lose you can always ask for a refund. I would not be suprised to see a tweak or an app to come along in the future to allow for what I described above and if that were the case my opinion of the program would surly turn more positive. Given the title I bet a GA or Prop edition will follow in the future.RobertHi Robert,As you are uysing UT2, you may be intersted in this update:http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...D=198527#198527Dave.
April 17, 201016 yr Hi Dave,For starters, I don't fly DEFAULT aircraft, 99.99% of my flight time is spent in the Level-D Boeing 767-300ER. Since I do not use the default aircraft you specify, there is ZERO value to me. I specifically asked about AI aircraft for one reason, that is all I'm looking for as far as this product is concerned.Seeing how your menu screens shown on Flight1's web site shows a title of "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer" and not the New Default Replacement Sound Sets For The 737,747,A320, CRJ and Learjer, one would not have to rely on the fact that I'm getting a good value because your soundsets work while flying default aircraft. Did I mention, I don't fly default aircraft. Your ad on Flight1's web site push the fact that it works with AI aircraft, your menus push this fact even further with the title "Audio Environment AI Sound Package Installer". Yet in your quote (from an earlier post) below you make it sound as though I'm lucky I'm getting this added (PLUS) feature.Take a look at your ad under the heading Ambience with Attitude! Fourth paragraph, your ad states the following:"Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly."Now you add the PLUS to changing the DEFAULT aircraft sounds over the installation of AIsounds. So which is it, do I get AIaircraft sounds with a PLUS of adding these sounds to my default aircraft or is it the other way around?.One can only expect this product to live up to the hype "YOU" instilled with the following statement."Now there comes an upgrade for Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!Audio Environment totally transforms your flying experience: whether you're sitting on the ground listening to the aircraft around you or enroute at 30,000ft, FSX will sound like an all-new sim.Add custom made, high quality stereo sound replacements to all your AI aircraft PLUS upgrade your airliners with fantastic sound sets for the 737, 747, A321, CRJ and Learjet aircraft. You can even install the new sounds into other aircraft you fly.Hear the difference as you start the engines, with realistic spool-up and whine and feel the deep roar as you thunder down the runway - FSX will sound like an all-new sim!"Since FSX plays AIaircraft engine(s) running sounds immediately, this product can only play the startup sound "OVER" the engine sound already playing, which drowns out or eliminates the effect. Depending on the aircraft / distance to the aircraft in question, you more than likely will not here the effect at all.Since FSX turns the AIaircraft engine(s) off immediately, there is a pause between engine stop and Audio Environment's shutdown effect, again unrealistic.In all fairness to the product, I knew I was looking at a lenghty install because of the custom AI aircraft installed in my system. After a three hour manual install of various aisound folders I now sat at KATL to here these "Flight Simulator X that will blow your ears off!" sounds.Bottom line, these blow your ears off sounds don't exist.1. To hear AIaircraft startup (spool-up/whine) sound over the engine running sound, you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft. Even then, in most cases you miss most of the startup sound effect - unrealistic2. To hear the AIaircraft engine reverser sound after touchdown, you need to be right on top of the landing AIaircraft, move a few feet from the AIaircraft and the sound is gone. - unrealistic3. AIaircraft taxi sound, again you need to be right on top of the AIaircraft or you will not hear the sound effect - unrealistic4. The startup sounds you hear at Flight1's web site are deceiving, they don't sound like that in the sim with AIaircraft because FSX controls AIaircraft engine sounds (the engines are already running), the spool-up/whine effects are drowned out and/or are eliminated depending on the AIaircraft.---------------------------------------------------------------------I absolutely agree with all your critiques, Mike. I bought the program on what I read and HEARD via FLIGHT1's page for it. I installed it, and was blown back in my chair, by "...you have got to be kidding!?!?!?"... The price should be half for what you actually end up with. Reader, just read again the above, and it was if I had written what I found disappointing for $40.00. It would only be a carbon-copy of what Mike typed. To hear any sounds, as Mike said, you have to be practically the Space Shuttle on the airframe's back, and spooling up/down? Forget it. The sound-teasers are totally misleading. This is wrong. You have to DIG in the manual to find out that FSX starts A.I. at full idle...'and they had to 'work with that'. Why then do a bait and switch?!? Why have sounds that via FSX's handling environment, will not ALLOW you to hear/enjoy/immerse via those real-world sounds?!?! Ok...I'm starting to ramp up, and so will end...with one final thought. I did not seek a Flight1 refund, solely that I had already spent the money, and the sounds, for whatever you do end up hearing around you, are better than the defaults. But having typed that, this one purchase has now put me on the back-burner mode until I read about other user's plus or minus comments regarding a product I might be interested in. It changed the way I perceive advertisement copy and web-page hype. There is a software advertisement mental firewall now in place, lol~ I simply was too trusting.
April 24, 201016 yr Commercial Member ---------------------------------------------------------------------I absolutely agree with all your critiques, Mike. I bought the program on what I read and HEARD via FLIGHT1's page for it. I installed it, and was blown back in my chair, by "...you have got to be kidding!?!?!?"... The price should be half for what you actually end up with. Reader, just read again the above, and it was if I had written what I found disappointing for $40.00. It would only be a carbon-copy of what Mike typed. To hear any sounds, as Mike said, you have to be practically the Space Shuttle on the airframe's back, and spooling up/down? Forget it. The sound-teasers are totally misleading. This is wrong. You have to DIG in the manual to find out that FSX starts A.I. at full idle...'and they had to 'work with that'. Why then do a bait and switch?!? Why have sounds that via FSX's handling environment, will not ALLOW you to hear/enjoy/immerse via those real-world sounds?!?! Ok...I'm starting to ramp up, and so will end...with one final thought. I did not seek a Flight1 refund, solely that I had already spent the money, and the sounds, for whatever you do end up hearing around you, are better than the defaults. But having typed that, this one purchase has now put me on the back-burner mode until I read about other user's plus or minus comments regarding a product I might be interested in. It changed the way I perceive advertisement copy and web-page hype. There is a software advertisement mental firewall now in place, lol~ I simply was too trusting.You don't state what AI package you are using, but if you read the post above, you will see we have taken these comments onboard and have already updated the UT2 sound pack to give stronger internal sounds. The other AI sound packs will be updated as soon as TSS can do them. To give you an idea of the difference, I was flying near Gatwick in cockpit view in a Cessna noise machine and a 767 came from behind and above and scared the life out of me. Maybe not realistic but effective. Please don't give up on the product as we have taken on board that some users prefer the louder sounds. Flight Xpress magazine have just published a review of the product without the sounds this month and have promised an update with the new sound pack next month, so hopefully that will confirm what I m saying.Regards.Dave.
April 24, 201016 yr Commercial Member Does TSS replicate the concusive roar of a jet going by on takeoff? If so I will buy it.jja Jim Allen[email protected]SkyPilot Software home of FSXAssist / P3DAssist
April 25, 201016 yr Could use some mini-reviews. I am getting sick of the sounds in FSX.I've been using AE for FSX for about two weeks---I like it very mush, especially with the new AI sound update (allows you to hear from within your cockpit), which was a good response to customer complaints.All in all, very well done, within the constraints of FSX...and if you fly any of the default aircraft, even better!BillKGYH
April 26, 201016 yr You don't state what AI package you are using, but if you read the post above, you will see we have taken these comments onboard and have already updated the UT2 sound pack to give stronger internal sounds. The other AI sound packs will be updated as soon as TSS can do them. To give you an idea of the difference, I was flying near Gatwick in cockpit view in a Cessna noise machine and a 767 came from behind and above and scared the life out of me. Maybe not realistic but effective. Please don't give up on the product as we have taken on board that some users prefer the louder sounds. Flight Xpress magazine have just published a review of the product without the sounds this month and have promised an update with the new sound pack next month, so hopefully that will confirm what I m saying.Regards.Dave.------------------------------------------------------------------------Dave, I am running with My Traffic X v5.2b I will set aside my present judgement, and await for an update for My Traffic X. If I think that that update has erased my critiques...then I will by all means come here and state that. I do hope that the promised My Traffic X sound update will be arriving 'sooner', than 'later'....Regards, also.Mitch
April 26, 201016 yr I too am running My Traffic 5.2b and anxiously awaiting the update. I still use FS9 due to the many sceneries I have for it, but also for FSHotSFX which really adds atmosphere to the simulation.
April 27, 201016 yr I went ahead and purchased this with the UT2 update. It is pretty cool, and does add a lot of extra noise while on the ground at an airport, but I think $40 was a little steep but I am happy with the purchase. Shane Gavin
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