Hey, I've noticed this problem for some time now (on 2 separate installs) and I've finally had enough. Problem is, some times it happens, some times it doesnt, and I haven't been able to trace it to a cause or a way of preventing it.I have a coldndark default flight set and saved with default cessna. I open that up and then load which plane I need. All switches (battery, avionics, etc) are switched off. Problem is, if I let the plane just sit there (doesn't matter if it's default or I already switched), sometimes all the power would come on, and all the avionics would turn it by themselves. The battery and avionics switches are still in the off position, and cycling them has no effect. This can happen in as little as 10 seconds of letting the plane sit there, or can never happen. Also, if it doesn't occur before I get the plane started, sometimes I guess it happens during flight as when I land and try to turn everything off, I can't.In the past of tried to save another default cold and dark flight which didn't help the situation. Any ideas on what's causing this? I have fs9 with all major addons.

Some aircraft models have their own default setups that pay little attention to your default flight power. The PMDG 737NG is one.

Some aircraft models have their own default setups that pay little attention to your default flight power. The PMDG 737NG is one.

I understand that, but this problem occurs regardless of whether I first load default cessna first or not. Also, this problem does not happen in complex airliners like the PMDG 737 or ERJv2.

I'm going to bump this once in hopes someone else has experienced this... Just happened to me again in the b200 and really annoying.

I'm going to bump this once in hopes someone else has experienced this... Just happened to me again in the b200 and really annoying.

Could this be something to do with some aircraft having the APU on when its loaded.?Andy

I'm going to bump this once in hopes someone else has experienced this... Just happened to me again in the b200 and really annoying.

let me guess, it happens to the planes that have Reality XP GPS installed.

Could this be something to do with some aircraft having the APU on when its loaded.?Andy

Nope. Happens on default cessna, Carenado planes, Aeroworx kingair, etc.

let me guess, it happens to the planes that have Reality XP GPS installed.

Nope! :( Happens both on default planes AND my dreamfleet baron (with reality GPS), along with others. FYI, the GPS also turns on along with everything else when this occurs.Am I really the only one experiencing something like this?

I might be totally wrong so apologies if this does not work but I'm sure I remember reading somehere that ai traffic can cause your problem. I think there is a line somewhere in the cfg of ai planes about electric or power availability and if it's set at 1 and you're in the aircraft's vicinity then you get that problem. I've never bothered to check and change my ai traffic as it seems like a very long process! Hope this helps. Maybe turn off ai traffic and if your problem stops then I guess the ai traffic is your culprit. kev

Nope. Happens on default cessna, Carenado planes, Aeroworx kingair, etc.Nope! :( Happens both on default planes AND my dreamfleet baron (with reality GPS), along with others. FYI, the GPS also turns on along with everything else when this occurs.Am I really the only one experiencing something like this?

red1- 6 years ago when my PC was new, I faithfully followed the wisdom about always first loading the default C&D KSEA Cessna flight. Gradually I discovered it made no difference- whether with default aircraft or add ons such as PMDG heavies or DreamFleet Baron/Bonanza.So for several years now, I've simply saved interesting situations as desired. I have nice C&D flights saved for all these planes as well as a fully setup 747, ready for TO with loaded FMC for a 20 minute proficiency "check ride" circuit at my home airport.Since my experience shows no difficulty with unexpected changes in saved airplane system(s) state, I have to wonder if your problem is somehow related to hardware.Alex Reid

Hi,There may be an electrical section in an AI aircraft that has the electrics set to "always available". This will turn these on in your aircraft too, due to a bug.Remove this line from AI aircraft:electric_always_available=1Hope this helps,

Hi,There may be an electrical section in an AI aircraft that has the electrics set to "always available". This will turn these on in your aircraft too, due to a bug.Remove this line from AI aircraft:electric_always_available=1Hope this helps,

Wow..I have many many AI planes...any easy way of searching?Also, what does it do to AI if I remove this line?

Wow..I have many many AI planes...any easy way of searching?Also, what does it do to AI if I remove this line?

I find this utility very handy (and very easy to use) when searching for a string like that:http://www.harddisksearch.com/Just set up the filter you want and in moments every location of the search string will be listed along with details about it's location. :( I have never seen any effect one way or the other on dedictaed AI craft if that line is there or not.

Another idea if you're using FSUIPC:Check if you have battery unlimited life ON and try making it OFF.Just a thought.

Here's a cool trick to save searching through all of your aircraft.cfgs manually for "electric_always_available=1". Navigate to your "FS9\Aircraft" folder, right click and choose New > Text Document. Name it "whatever.bat". Right click whatever.bat and choose edit, it should open in Notepad. Paste the following:

findstr /s /i /c:"electric_always_available = 1" aircraft.cfg > occurrences.txtfindstr /s /i /c:"electric_always_available=1" aircraft.cfg >> occurrences.txtstart occurrences.txt

Save and close, then double click the .bat file. It'll walk through all your aircraft directories and make a list of any aircraft.cfgs that contain "electric_always_available=1" or "electric_always_available = 1" (note spaces around equal sign). It saves the list to a file named "occurrences.txt" and opens the .txt file when it's done.Tested in XP, no clue whether it works on any other OS.Jim

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try this out next week and will report back.