is it possible to obtain a specific license in order to use fsx for commercial use. If someone built a flight simulator for the paying public, for instance, could they use fsx? Thanks for any info.

Check MS ESP...

no. FSX was never built nor is it accurate enough for commercial use.

no. FSX was never built nor is it accurate enough for commercial use.

I don't think he's talking about airlines using it for type ratings! commercial use can mean a number of things including building your own full size sim and charging people to use it.Regards

no. FSX was never built nor is it accurate enough for commercial use.

Hello Try telling that to these guyshttp://www.redbirdflightsimulations.com/Lockheed Martin, FlightSafety International , Northrop Grumman are all using ESP which is based on the same simulation engine as FSX

no. FSX was never built nor is it accurate enough for commercial use.

ESP is FSX without the user interface and it is most defintiely accurate enough for commercial use. It's used in FAA-certified trainers every day.

no. FSX was never built nor is it accurate enough for commercial use.

FSX is actually better than the regularly approved, PCATD software (i.e. OnTop, X-Plane).. You can get FSX (or FS9) approved when interfaced properly.. A club I used to fly with uses it on a VERY advanced simulator for logging instrument time.

I don't think he's talking about airlines using it for type ratings! commercial use can mean a number of things including building your own full size sim and charging people to use it.Regards

Thanks for all your replies, very interesting link to redbirdflight. rjprest is correct. I'm looking more along the lines of the entertainment industry really, and yes, charging people to have a flight. And I suppose I have to take into account the 30 or so addons that I have fused into FSX.

Thanks for all your replies, very interesting link to redbirdflight. rjprest is correct. I'm looking more along the lines of the entertainment industry really, and yes, charging people to have a flight. And I suppose I have to take into account the 30 or so addons that I have fused into FSX.

Actually.....We (Flight1 Aviation Technologies) are one of the very few if any that you can obtain ESP from now, via our Object Code license agreement with Microsoft.Jim RhoadsFlight1 Tech

ESP is FSX without the user interface and it is most defintiely accurate enough for commercial use. It's used in FAA-certified trainers every day.

And you can have that interface with a product we have developed and will release very shortly called "ESP Free Flight"We restore the exact same FSX menu system interface that you are used to. Jim

The ESP license forbids making a commercial (purchasable) flight simulation product for entertainment purposes. Which means he can't use it.

So why can't you just setup a little stand with your own system and charge people to fly it?Why do you have to use ESP, just use the FSX version...

The ESP license forbids making a commercial (purchasable) flight simulation product for entertainment purposes. Which means he can't use it.

If he is using ESP in a commercial setting (asking money for a flight) than he is perfectly aligned with ESP. It doesn't matter if he is providing a flying whoopee cushion for fun. If he charges money to fly it in a commercial setting, he needs ESP. What he cannot do is charge money for the use of FSX in anyway which is licensed as an entertainment / non-commercial use product.Jim

So why can't you just setup a little stand with your own system and charge people to fly it?Why do you have to use ESP, just use the FSX version...

Read your FSX EULA. You know... that thing they make you read at the end of the installation? :( The answer is because it is in violation of the End User License Agreement. You can do anything you want, but if Microsoft finds out about it, you will be talking to lawyers.Jim

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That's exactly what I want to do, but it seems very confusing as to whether one can or not at the moment.

It is not confusing at all. You cannot do it or you are in legal violation of the End User License Agreement. (FSX)

quote[The idea to bring the technology behind Flight Simulator to the commercial market is not a new one. For over ten years Microsoft customers and partners have asked if they could use Flight Simulator technology for non-entertainment purposes. This would have been a violation of the End User License in Flight Simulator, however, so it was denied.]It seems that only NON entertainment use violates the EULA.