January 17, 201115 yr Hi guys!Why PMDG its not attracted to classics?? (747-200, DC-10, MD-8X, Tristar, etc etc) I would kill for one of those made by pmdg :(Why not guys? Juan Ramos
January 17, 201115 yr I will give you a hint: Don't expect anything so early, I'd say for the next 3 to 5 years or more. PMDG has many projects going on. There is the NGX, the 777, the Dash-8 and one (or two???) secret project. They won't come out with another one so early. The NGX is giving them so much headache that I think the last thing they want to do right now is announce a new development.I also wanted to see a classic plane with PMDG quality for FSX with a good INS simulation and a complete flight engineer, but for the next years, we'll have to satisfy ourselves with CLS DC-10 or CLS 747 Classic. Edited January 17, 201115 yr by barfra1995 Matheus Mafra
January 17, 201115 yr I will give you a hint: Don't expect anything so early, I'd say for the next 3 to 5 years or more. PMDG has many projects going on. There is the NGX, the 777, the Dash-8 and one (or two???) secret project. They won't come out with another one so early. The NGX is giving them so much headache that I think the last thing they want to do right now is announce a new development.+1I was writing the same, some exciting years are coming with the next 737NG, the Triple7 and the "little" Dash-8...(I'm a classic's fan too, but i'm not angry with PMDG for that...i expect a lot of fun with their old and new birds )Cheers, Paolo Fumagalli "Everyday is a new flight, with new system to learn, new failures to prevent and new database to update..."
January 17, 201115 yr Why PMDG its not attracted to classics??They are, but from what I remember it basically comes down to money. Much like most things. There was a post recently by a PMDG team member about it, but I can't remember when it was.EDIT: This is what I was thinking of.http://forum.avsim.net/topic/320674-pmdg-l-1011/page__view__findpost__p__1890012
January 17, 201115 yr Commercial Member We'd love to do something like this, however the number we'd sell wouldn't justify the development time that would otherwise be spent on other projects. Unfortunately most people want current modern planes. Even the MD-11 was victim to this mentality - a ton of people passed on it because they thought it was "old" etc just because it is out of production and not used by many passenger airlines today. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
January 18, 201115 yr We'd love to do something like this, however the number we'd sell wouldn't justify the development time that would otherwise be spent on other projects. Unfortunately most people want current modern planes. Even the MD-11 was victim to this mentality - a ton of people passed on it because they thought it was "old" etc just because it is out of production and not used by many passenger airlines today.Ryan,How about a promotion similiar to what you did on the 747X...CD Version of the MD-11X with a discounted incentive? Might stimulate lost sales on the MD-11.Paul KuhnKGYR Paul K KGYR
January 18, 201115 yr I'd like to interject here.....I too put off getting the MD11 but picked it up last year. Started off slow with it however the more time I spent with it the more interested I became until I purchased the full manual set earlier this month. Tremendously interesting aircraft. Satisfying to learn some totally different procedures i.e. Autoflight, CDU etc. Anyone who doesn't give it a good look is missing something.Dave in Winnipeg
January 18, 201115 yr I agree on the satisfaction that the MD11 brings to FSX, and the fun of learning something totally unlike any other big aircraft. It might be old in terms of out of production, but it is so highly automated that it almost seems to be ahead of most other aircraft still in production- and it's easy to see where Airbus got their ideas from! I often wonder where MD would be today if they hadn't both been taken over by Boeing and closed, and they could have put more time into a better wing on the M11 that would have been more competitive, making their company more successful and perhaps still here today.Bruce. ASEL, Instrument. KBJC, Colorado.
January 18, 201115 yr We'd love to do something like this, however the number we'd sell wouldn't justify the development time that would otherwise be spent on other projects. Unfortunately most people want current modern planes. Even the MD-11 was victim to this mentality - a ton of people passed on it because they thought it was "old" etc just because it is out of production and not used by many passenger airlines today.Maybe PMDG should start a survey? It would be interesting to see what the majority would like to buy and fly. I am not sure that a product like a classic 747-200 from PMDG will have less sales like the JS41 or the MD11. But I am sure that you guys at PMDG have already discussed it internally, right? Anyway I love your products and look forward to the next releases from PMDG. Cheers Jan 9800X3D | Asus ROG Astral 5080 | 64GB G.Skill RipJaws | 1T/2T/4T Samsung 990 PRO | Windows 11 | MSFS
January 18, 201115 yr I will give you a hint: Don't expect anything so early, I'd say for the next 3 to 5 years or more. PMDG has many projects going on. There is the NGX, the 777, the Dash-8 and one (or two???) secret project. They won't come out with another one so early. The NGX is giving them so much headache that I think the last thing they want to do right now is announce a new development.I also wanted to see a classic plane with PMDG quality for FSX with a good INS simulation and a complete flight engineer, but for the next years, we'll have to satisfy ourselves with CLS DC-10 or CLS 747 Classic.The FlightsimLabs Concorde-X is exactly what you described. Great optional flight engineer that handles fuel tank management, CG balance, and engine thrust rating. It also has 3, fully clickable/functiongin CIVA INS units in the VC with optional 2d popups of the units as well. It also has a great config manager and I believe it has some failures modeled as well (I don't think the failure modeling is as in depth as PMDG or Leonardo though). Shane Gavin
January 18, 201115 yr We'd love to do something like this, however the number we'd sell wouldn't justify the development time that would otherwise be spent on other projects. Unfortunately most people want current modern planes. Even the MD-11 was victim to this mentality - a ton of people passed on it because they thought it was "old" etc just because it is out of production and not used by many passenger airlines today.It's so ridiculous that people say this. The avionics on the md-11 are extremely advanced and very modern in todays standards. It should be in the hangar for anyone worth anything in the fs world. Steven Penninck
January 18, 201115 yr For the Boeing 747-200 and 300 I highly recommend you the Commercial Level Simulations, CLS. Years ago my favorite developer and my favorite aircraft until I met PMDG with their B747 400. Steven Albi
January 18, 201115 yr Since we're talking about the MD-11, if it has such modern avionics, and he has, why Boeing decided to stop manufacturing MD-11s? Matheus Mafra
January 18, 201115 yr Commercial Member Since we're talking about the MD-11, if it has such modern avionics, and he has, why Boeing decided to stop manufacturing MD-11s?The MD-11 did/does have problems in the real world - for one it's fuel economy never lived up to the claims that MD had made about it. It's had a spate of pretty alarming accidents at landing/flare too, as recently as last year in Tokyo. Biggest reason I think though is that the plane is a direct competitor to the 777. They didn't want to be competing with themselves essentially.It's kinda interesting how ahead of their time some of MD's designs were though:http://en.wikipedia....ile:Md-12-2.png - this looks awfully similar to a certain large Airbus that's flying now... this was 1992.Keep in mind too a lot of the MD people still work at Boeing today - I'm sure people with MD backgrounds are involved with the 787 etc. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
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