I've never flown any add-ons from PMDG (just waiting for NGX...), but a lot of other a/c in both FS9 and FSX. And from a flight model / flight dynamics / control law pov some are really good, some are .... well, not so good. (I'm comparing to our JAS Gripen simulator at Saab). So - how will the NGX perform in this aspect? Is weight distribution, drag from control surfaces and gear etc accounted for in the aerodynamic model. And what about the interaction between control input - interception and processing - controlsurface respons in the fly-by-wire system?Not questioning - just curious. 'Cause if everything is very real life, does being able to land the NGX smoothly in FSX also mean that you could land the real thing IRL?

Nobody beats PMDG in any area, and why don't you have any of their other addons? You're really missing out!

Try another one from PMDG, may I suggest the MD-11. Its really fantastic and it will help you ease the waiting :-)

The PMDG NGX is, hands-down the most complex system simulation of any airliner yet produced for FSX- whether you look at the detail of the airplane model, the cockpit, the behaviors of the FMS, or the way the aircraft systems are tied together into a living, breathing airplane- this simulation is unlike anything you have ever experienced in FSX.

Who knows until it's released........eeeerrrrr and no, it will be very unlikely that you will be able to land the real thing based on fsx.Real life is much more complex than fsx and a £?? add-on......that's why pilots have real training and don't spend all day playing FSX.:biggrin:Chris Farrell

Who knows until it's released........eeeerrrrr and no, it will be very unlikely that you will be able to land the real thing based on fsx.Real life is much more complex than fsx and a £?? add-on......that's why pilots have real training and don't spend all day playing FSX.:biggrin:Chris Farrell

I would have to disagree.... Having only flown Flight sim Products and Addons I had my hand at a real 737 simulator and was succesful in all aspects even the landing. And if someone comes back and says a multi million dollar simulator is not like flying a real plane - well, i don't know what to you.

That's interesting,Where did you try the simulator and how much did it cost/time?Chris Farrell

Who knows until it's released........eeeerrrrr and no, it will be very unlikely that you will be able to land the real thing based on fsx.Real life is much more complex than fsx and a £?? add-on......that's why pilots have real training and don't spend all day playing FSX.:biggrin:Chris Farrell

Why would it be very unlikely?In good weather conditions (good visibility, no precipitation, no wind, etc....) with a fully functional aircraft? Why not?Bert Van Bulck

Why would it be very unlikely?In good weather conditions (good visibility, no precipitation, no wind, etc....) with a fully functional aircraft? Why not?Bert Van Bulck

as a pilot i will tell you fsx can provide you with information on how to perform simple tasks, but can NEVER teach you how to fly. My flight instructor always said "have fun on the simulator, but dont practice"

as a pilot i will tell you fsx can provide you with information on how to perform simple tasks, but can NEVER teach you how to fly. My flight instructor always said "have fun on the simulator, but dont practice"

I'm not a pilot but I've flown a 777 simulator at the United Airlines Training Center at the AVSIM conference a number of years ago. Landing the real thing is easier than on the computer. The plane trims better, is easier to get stable on approach, and you feel the changes in attifude as well as see them on the gauges. But I would not have had that success without my PMDG planes or the Level D 767.Colin Ware

I'm not a pilot but I've flown a 777 simulator at the United Airlines Training Center at the AVSIM conference a number of years ago. Landing the real thing is easier than on the computer. The plane trims better, is easier to get stable on approach, and you feel the changes in attifude as well as see them on the gauges. But I would not have had that success without my PMDG planes or the Level D 767.Colin Ware

Thats the biggest thing that is different in the real world and in a lot of cases, makes it easier to fly in the real world......FEELING. One can feel what the airplane is doing in the real world. One can feel if the airplane is trimmed correctly or if it is out of trim. AS said above, one can feel if the aircraft is stabilized on the approach. FSX/FS9 cant and never will be able to do that. Its still hell of a lot of fun.

Take a flying lesson.....all will be clear.:smile:There's always weather and physics in the real world.....fsx is not great at either.Chris Farrell

I'm not a pilot but I've flown a 777 simulator at the United Airlines Training Center at the AVSIM conference a number of years ago. Landing the real thing is easier than on the computer. The plane trims better, is easier to get stable on approach, and you feel the changes in attifude as well as see them on the gauges. But I would not have had that success without my PMDG planes or the Level D 767.Colin Ware

I agree Colin. I have never flown a real airliner sim, but I have flown an F-4 sim years ago as well as light a/c in the real world, and would have to agree that flying a/c are much easier in real life than in the sim as far as manually flying them goes.Manually flying an a/c itself is not the hard part, its learing all the sytems, what they do, and how to operate them correctly that is the hard part. I'm sure most people who have spent some time in FSX/FS9 could go take a lesson in a Cessna or fly a real 737 sim and be able to control it and fly it reasonably well.Sean Campbell

I am a student pilot and also have some friends in the industry. I have spent about 10 hours in 757 and 767 sims and have to say FSX helped alot. It is easier to get the feeling for the trim, speeds, etc in the full movement simulator than it is in FSX. In real life you have cross winds, up and down drafts, wind sheer etc so it makes it even harder than in the full motion sims. That being said you would have alot better chance of getting it on the ground then someone who has no clue what a yoke, trim or flaps are.Bout a year ago a guy with 2 hrs in a Cessna 172 landed a Beech King Air after the pilot had a heart attack and it was a 3 point landing. The plane was like brand new when he taxied it up to the FBO. ATC and the tower talked him down. So a little experience can go a long way in a pinch.

About a year ago, a guy with 2 hrs in a Cessna 172 landed a Beech King Air after the pilot had a heart attack and it was a 3 point landing. The plane was brand new when he taxied it up to the FBO. ATC and the tower talked him down. So a little experience can go a long way in a pinch.

Isn't that real experience dealing with a real problem? Chris Farrell