PFC makes fine controls, they are joy to touch and look at, extremely durable but their yoke has a very flimsy "feel", I tested it at some Avsim conference and it was simply to light to turn, you could control it with your pinky (so yeah you could argue it was for 'precise' control), being real pilot I wanted something that reminds me of real yoke aerodynamic feel so I do have problem with this Realism factor. Unless of course they changed something in the past few years. If nothing else they should just put better springs inside. If I pay this amount of $$ I would like to have top-notch feel.

If you are going to fly a Boeing with the realism of PDMG 737 or 747, you gotta have a yoke, throttles and rudder pedals. Precision Flight Yoke: $400Precision Throttles: $400Saitek Rudder pedals: $120Realism: Priceless

I, for one, think the Precision Flight stuff is grossly over priced for what you get.

If you are going to fly a Boeing with the realism of PDMG 737 or 747, you gotta have a yoke, throttles and rudder pedals. Precision Flight Yoke: $400Precision Throttles: $400Saitek Rudder pedals: $120Realism: Priceless

Hospital bill after my wife clocks me over the head with a frying pan after buying this: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$Seriously, though....I am personally tired of controlling the aircraft using the num pad. Once I get some extra money, I am going to get the Saitek yoke, and later on the rudder pedals. And, oh yes, a protective helmet.

PFC makes fine controls, they are joy to touch and look at, extremely durable but their yoke has a very flimsy "feel", I tested it at some Avsim conference and it was simply to light to turn, you could control it with your pinky (so yeah you could argue it was for 'precise' control), being real pilot I wanted something that reminds me of real yoke aerodynamic feel so I do have problem with this Realism factor. Unless of course they changed something in the past few years. If nothing else they should just put better springs inside. If I pay this amount of $ I would like to have top-notch feel.

Michael, I also found the PFC "Cirrus-type" yoke to have a rather flimsy feel to it and returned it to PFC and purchased a PFC "Column-style" yoke and it is a world of difference between the desk-style cirrus yoke. I too could turn the a/c with my pinky until I got the 'column-style' yoke. A little more money, but well worth the price when you consider we lay out thousands of dollars for the latest and greatest computers and monitors etc. This yoke is durable and should last a lot longer than 3 or 4 more computers etc. It's not the sole equivalent hydraulic-induced yoke that's in the NG simulator, but it's pretty darn good.:( Regards,jen noulet

How about the Logitech G940? anyone tried that one with windows 7?`

Yes I have had the 940 combination for some time and have been very impressed. The weight of the throttle and joystick means no clamping and plenty of combination of buttons for varies functions. I still have the yoke but it needs clamping and makes it akward to use the keyboard head on to the monitor. Force feedback i only use on stall shaker.steve

I am still considering whether I should buy the saitek Yoke or they will soon release a new one.

I am still considering whether I should buy the saitek Yoke or they will soon release a new one.

I have the Saitek yoke and considering its price, I believe it to be quite good. Would be interested though if Saitek comes out with an improved version. Do you have any info on that? Or were you just wishing out loud :(

I have the Saitek yoke and considering its price, I believe it to be quite good. Would be interested though if Saitek comes out with an improved version. Do you have any info on that? Or were you just wishing out loud :(

I wish so, all others are just tooo expensive

I wish so, all others are just tooo expensive

Yup... Would love to buy the PFC 737 column yoke, but at 1100 euro's I think I first need to find another wife, since my current one wouldn't allow it :( :(

From what I've heard the absolute finest controller made right now is the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - it's $500 and isn't exactly realistic for an airliner though - the precision of the new system they developed with the Hall sensors is supposed to be absolutely incredible though - if you have DCS A-10C it's a plug-and-play 100% realistic control system for that sim too - all the buttons will function exactly as they do in real life.

From what I've heard the absolute finest controller made right now is the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - it's $500 and isn't exactly realistic for an airliner though - the precision of the new system they developed with the Hall sensors is supposed to be absolutely incredible though - if you have DCS A-10C it's a plug-and-play 100% realistic control system for that sim too - all the buttons will function exactly as they do in real life.

I thought seriously about it but decided against it because it seemed to be very specific to the A-10. I know it can be customized to other programs but the labeling will be off, and the lack of generic controls like rotaries makes it hard to set additional axes such as prop and mixture. Obviously that's not an issue if you fly jets exclusively, and for DCS A-10C it's perfection. Clearly on it's own terms it's a great piece of hardware.

Although I have the Saitek yoke, I'm going to be picking up a F.L.Y 5 because I'd rather have something that I can setup quickly and have the rudder capability. Also, I feel as if joysticks makes hand flying much easier unless the yoke is of fantastic quality.

From what I've heard the absolute finest controller made right now is the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - it's $500 and isn't exactly realistic for an airliner though - the precision of the new system they developed with the Hall sensors is supposed to be absolutely incredible though - if you have DCS A-10C it's a plug-and-play 100% realistic control system for that sim too - all the buttons will function exactly as they do in real life.

Ryan,I'm about to find out all about those Hall effect sensors. I just purchased the much cheaper Thrustmaster T.16000M joystick. Which admitedly has received some pretty crappy reviews for its awfuly build quality. But it was the only other joystick going that i could find that had those sensors. There is just NO WAY my wife will tolerate spending $500 on a joystick! (struggling to justify $2k on a new PC!). There is another joystick out there that has similar technology (might be Saitek) that uses a form of pressure sensors to operate the stick. Be interested to se how that goes.BTW the t.16000M was damn hard to buy here in Oz... got it from Ebay. Amazon and a lot of US stores refused to sell it to Oz customers... not very nice but there you go.Cheers,David

Here is my setup as of today anyways.

I use both yoke and sticks at the same time. I recomend saitek Pro Flight Yoke. But I am also using Logitech G940 Flight controls includeing rudder peddles. My 2 penneys worth anyway.

The saitek pro control yoke is pretty cool. Have had it for a few months and enjoy it over the joystick.