Holy dust storm Batman!!! Fill us in Tabs! How was the haboob last night in PHX? Do REX or any of the other FS environment add-ons allow for haboobs? That would be awsome to fly into one coming down for an ILS to minimums!Hiram Hunt

Holy dust storm Batman!!! Fill us in Tabs! How was the haboob last night in PHX? Do REX or any of the other FS environment add-ons allow for haboobs? That would be awsome to fly into one coming down for an ILS to minimums!Hiram Hunt

Ahh a Dust storm , I wondered what a haboob was... don't have many of those in Northern Ireland :(

From a Phoenician, the haboob was incredibly different. Which reminds me, I need to change my location.

I saw on the news a plane going into the storm!! can a plane fly in a sand storm?

<br />I saw on the news a plane going into the storm!! can a plane fly in a sand storm?<br />

<br /><br /><br />Not sure. I know you can't fly through volcanic ash. But maybe you can and just need a new paint job.

The issue with flying into a sandstorm or an ash cloud is what it does to the engines. Nothing good.

Flying into a sandstorm is like flying into a sand blaster.Europe are idiots for allowing air transport to fly in known areas of volcanic ash. Sure, the engine may not fail on that flight, but you're setting the aircraft up for big problems later. They are doing a fine job of destroying any gains made in reliability.Best regards,Robin.

Europe are idiots for allowing air transport to fly in known areas of volcanic ash. Sure, the engine may not fail on that flight, but you're setting the aircraft up for big problems later. They are doing a fine job of destroying any gains made in reliability.Best regards,Robin.

Well excuse me, but as one of these "idiots" (isn't offending forbidden in this forum) I have to inform you that in recent times serveral airports were closed exactly because of volcanic-ashes. Some airlines (including non-europe or should I say non-idiots airlines) complained quite harsh about the EU being to hard with their actions.And as far as I know in the end it is the pilots/airlines decision to fly on that day wether the airports are open or not.I do hate (I know it is a strong word) this generalizing over the citizens of a whole town/country/continent or other groups of people!Greetings Stefan Rakel

Well excuse me, but as one of these "idiots" (isn't offending forbidden in this forum) I have to inform you that in recent times serveral airports were closed exactly because of volcanic-ashes. Some airlines (including non-europe or should I say non-idiots airlines) complained quite harsh about the EU being to hard with their actions.And as far as I know in the end it is the pilots/airlines decision to fly on that day wether the airports are open or not.I do hate (I know it is a strong word) this generalizing over the citizens of a whole town/country/continent or other groups of people!Greetings Stefan Rakel

I wouldn't want to be crewing the aircraft to depart a closed airfield into closed airspace that's for sure!

I do hate (I know it is a strong word) this generalizing over the citizens of a whole town/country/continent or other groups of people!

Don't blame me - I don't want a "Europe" or to be any part of it but a bunch of people called politicians are deciding that for me. :( Europe ARE idiots (and I'm sure you are smart enough to know exactly which Europeans I am referring to without thinking I'm referring to all 550 million people???) for thinking you can safely fly through anything resembling sand paper at 500 kts with very precisely built equipment without any repercussions later.Just ask NASA what they think of the idea. They flew a fully equipped 707 through ash, and they had detectors built for the purpose that told them the air they were flying through was clear. A borescope inspection later found they'd destroyed all 4 engines. They sat in Iceland waiting for spares. Needless to say when they flew back they gave the cloud an additional 500 mile clearance on top of the 500 miles they already gave it!Best regards,Robin.

I actually missed the main haboobing last night - didn't even realize it was happening until it'd already hit - my sister had been calling trying to tell me to go look outside, but my phone got thrown on silent somehow... I went out after and it looked like fog but it was dust in the air - pretty eerie. The videos and stuff are insane, it looks like something out of a disaster movie.Check this HD one out:http://vimeo.com/26045314KPHX was shut down for over an hour by this and then again a few hours later by monsoon thunderstorms. Pretty eventful start to monsoon season so far!

WOW.... amazing just watching the videos :(

Hope it didnt put the NGX on hold !!

Wow, it puts me in mind of the old dustbowl.Are those things fairly common?

Wow, it puts me in mind of the old dustbowl.Are those things fairly common?

I've lived in Phoenix for 19 almost 20 years and I don't remember dust storms that big (50 miles wide and 3000 feet high I heard). But dust storms during the monsoon season can occur occasionally.