Yes, I know that, I'm just commenting on a general basis. I would think that a company that doesnt want to release the changelog for a patch probably have something to hide for whatever reason, hence my skeptisism

The changelog has been released to those who have access to the patch... As far as something to hide goes, iFly is the most open, helpful, and friendly bunch of developers and support folks that I've encountered. Their forums are a pleasure and a welcome change of pace and attitude compared to most others. The developement community could learn a lot about customer relations from them.DJ

Much as I really liked this addon, I had issues I just wasn't willing to keep, so gave up and got my refund. Thank you Flight1 - much appreciated.The biggest issue by far for me was nothing to do with FPS or performance, but that, when in VNAV, the next speed & altitude restriction would kick-in immediately after the preceeding waypoint. Even when over 200nm ahead.I understand this has not been corrected.

All you have to do to get it is to buy the current version and register...DJ

Thats not the point .. the point is if the non purchasing crowd knew of the improvements brought about because of SP1 .. and they liked the improvements .. they might repurchase.

Thats not the point .. the point is if the non purchasing crowd knew of the improvements brought about because of SP1 .. and they liked the improvements .. they might repurchase.

That's pretty much up to Flight1 and iFly, eh? Given the general feedback about the plane I would expect them to repurchase and try it out; the 30 day offer hasn't changed. I've been around the iFly forum since the original and SP release and the feedback has been very positive. Frankly, with the exception of VC framerates being an issue with some users, most of the problems I've seen or helped work out have been user error.DJ

I wouldn't be too sceptical - this company are far and away more forthcoming with support, information etc than any (any I mean any) other developers - including the BIG names. In fact, some of the big names could learn from them.DP

They really need to do something about the cockpit lighting. I don't like how the gauges and back lighting turn on automatically depending on time of day. BTW anybody else have the LNAV get really screwy after installing the service pack.

That's pretty much up to Flight1 and iFly, ...

Yes, and their decision is being critisized.

They really need to do something about the cockpit lighting. I don't like how the gauges and back lighting turn on automatically depending on time of day. BTW anybody else have the LNAV get really screwy after installing the service pack.

Lighting will be worked on for the service pack according to the devs; in regard LNAV I've had no problems and seen none reported...DJ

They 'rejected' it due to problems, and were/are waiting for news about the SP, to possibly re-purchase it. I was not advocating making it available, but at least a notice that it was released would be good marketing sense, unless they simply don't care about those particular customers.

Is there no end to the the whining in the FS community ? You only have to go to the PMDG forum to see that. And now Flight 1 are in the whingers sights. Roll the clock back a few years, it was never like this.2 Days ago, on the iFly forum, a rather immature,naive young gentleman asked for assistance with his copy of the 737, which he blatanly, stated he had downloaded using a Torrent. Thought nothing of it, and expected he would be helped.If I was a Dev, and I had to read some of the crap that is posted today, quite franklly, they would be well within their rights to come around to your house and stomp on your toys. Enough is enough!!

Yes, I know that, I'm just commenting on a general basis. I would think that a company that doesnt want to release the changelog for a patch probably have something to hide for whatever reason, hence my skeptisism

My feeling is that you are here for the sake of the argument, your comments makes no sense with a 30 day money back service...It's real simple if you don't like it you can get a refund with in the 30 days period :blink:So nothing to hide here :(

Much as I really liked this addon, I had issues I just wasn't willing to keep, so gave up and got my refund. Thank you Flight1 - much appreciated.The biggest issue by far for me was nothing to do with FPS or performance, but that, when in VNAV, the next speed & altitude restriction would kick-in immediately after the preceeding waypoint. Even when over 200nm ahead.I understand this has not been corrected.

Hi Phil,You fell a little behind here. Fixed long ago.Best,Jim Harnes

Is there no end to the the whining in the FS community ? You only have to go to the PMDG forum to see that. And now Flight 1 are in the whingers sights. Roll the clock back a few years, it was never like this.2 Days ago, on the iFly forum, a rather immature,naive young gentleman asked for assistance with his copy of the 737, which he blatanly, stated he had downloaded using a Torrent. Thought nothing of it, and expected he would be helped.If I was a Dev, and I had to read some of the crap that is posted today, quite franklly, they would be well within their rights to come around to your house and stomp on your toys. Enough is enough!!

Listen up genious......if it wasnt for someone posting in Avsim about the SP, NON customers, you know, people who MIGHT be interested in buying/re-purchasing it, wouldnt have a clue the SP was released. If asking why it wasnt made general knowledge is whining, then count me as a whiner. This has NOTHING to do with pirates, I was asking why a NOTICE wasnt made, not the SP itself.BTW, it's "whiners' not "wingers', we are all 'wingers' last I knew :(

Listen up genious......if it wasnt for someone posting in Avsim about the SP, NON customers, you know, people who MIGHT be interested in buying/re-purchasing it, wouldnt have a clue the SP was released. If asking why it wasnt made general knowledge is whining, then count me as a whiner. This has NOTHING to do with pirates, I was asking why a NOTICE wasnt made, not the SP itself.BTW, it's "whiners' not "wingers', we are all 'wingers' last I knew :(

If you go look at the general forum at iFly support forums you'll see the notice and list of fixes... incidentally, it's "genius" not "genious".DJ

I got it at launch and have been really happy with it! The SP1 only made it better for me!

If you go look at the general forum at iFly support forums you'll see the notice and list of fixes... incidentally, it's "genius" not "genious".DJ

Yes, it's there NOW, and probably thanks to this thread.

Yes, it's there NOW, and probably thanks to this thread.

Nope that's not the reason ;-)