Chris proud of you my friend now lol please believe me pal its so true, if you need help with your system be proud to help you I have been doing this for years and I know we can get that thing smoking buddy.

richard would love to take take your help on how to overclock my i7-2600kplease let me know how i can take this forwardregardsvivek anand

viking21 thanks for posting this and before i go on please to others that read this i respect PMDG because i know their produtcs) sometimes its hard to make a few people understand another simers problems . in my situation i have not see any errors yet and if you look at my signature you can see that what i run even here in US it cost me a nice figure to manage just the core I7 extreme edition i run in one of my computers was 1k $ when i got it . if on release day i would got a (aircrafts not loading,skeletons of aircrafts being loaded,with crashes, out of memeory crashes, panels freezing) i would be really mad (mad on my side of the story not PMDG)and this is exactly the feeling of others like you that spend hard earn money and find out that you cant run this addon that in my opinion its the must realistic AC compare to my experience as a real world pilot .I hope you can find a way to make it run without having to put more cash into your computer .

thks ,proves there are nice simmers around who appreciate the problem we face ,instead of being called TROLLS,I HAVE NEVER meant disrespect to pmdg , infact been a loyal customer of theirs since old 737 days,just wanted to let them know that i am facing issues which i wanted to sort out,i have stopped flying 737ngx and will wait for their service updates to come out,however this forum is meant to report issues we have thats it,i agree with the guy who wrote this post on certain issues he raised not his subsequent comments later,however i do notice that crude posts do attract attention from pmdg higherups, which i feel is not required as they always have come up with quality products,i do now believe that they would have rushed up to deliver a product which has created so many problems( to probably a few customers) till date which just goes on to prove no matter how much of beta testing is done it is ultimately the end customers who are the best beta testers for them and this is a fact which must be appreciated , i believe that if pmdg had faced all the problems i have faced in the last 2 days they would not have released this product till they cleared it up , so may be new issues are cropping which they never faced in beta testing, i drop in fps has never bothered me as i never had any problems in two flights i did,it was just the fact that i had to reduce my sliders to relatively lower levels in a high end machine which has ###### me of,giving me relatively low levels of exterior graphics-a fact i never faced in md-11 or j41vivek anand

I now have an i5 2500K, 8Gb RAM, a not so fresh GTS250 GPU and Win7 64 bit since saturday. Clean install, installed all the addons and just ran it through venetubo. Great performance. So, dear OP, you should consider that YOU messed it up.

VIVEK your welcome and yes the word TROLL wont get better performance to the setup of the person who is having problems .I can only tell someone else what we already know about ******* findings and the like . I wish i could help a bit more . when it comes to beta testing one thing thats imposible to recreate its the millions of systems setups that customers have in their house so when you keep that in mind you can understand that problems would be diferent on diferent setups . I know that if PMDG had all this problems they would not release the NGX till this was fix but again they can only beta test on whats available to the testers and not what the big amount of us have at home.

Hi viking21, I will direct you to overclockers.net they are the pros very willing to help and they no there stuff bigtime, that is what I did anything else I can help you with, just send pm pal, let me know what your computer specs are also please, thanks off to bed for 4 hours then off to work fyi.

I work in a 12 million dolllar level D sim every day and this is almost as realistic !!!!!!!!! Frederic.

That must be a really cheap simulator, our simulators at Lufthansa costs easily 20mil Euro. Sven

That must be a really cheap simulator, our simulators at Lufthansa costs easily 20mil Euro. Sven

Watchout, simulator measuring contest.

Watchout, simulator measuring contest.

SIMFIGHT! Honestly, I do not expect an A/C to be ultra realistic. What PMDG delivered is much more the average FSX pilot will ever need to use.

FSX is CPU bound we all know this. Some people go out and get the fastest CPU they can find thinking FSX will now scream through the frames like the youtube videos they watched but...Things don't work like that. In order to maximize your CPU you have to remove bottlenecks from your entire chain/system. You need a fast video card not so much because FSX needs it but because your CPU requires it to operate at its best. You need a robust power supply to provide adequate power to your CPU and your high end video card. Think of it like a car. You can stick a turbo charger on a 1996 Ford Festiva but its really not going to be as fast as a Turbo Charger on a sports car. Point being you need to build your PC to support the heavy workload FSX will put the CPU through. That being said, I do not overclock my video card. I run with a GTX 580 an i7920 OC to around 3.6ghz and a 1000 watt powersupply with plenty of cooling. For me FSX runs nice and smooth with the "******* tweaks" that are linked in the PMDG manuals as well as using an external frame rate limiter and setting FSX to unlimited. Guthrie Z

The fact that FSX leans heavily on the CPU doesn't mean that the GPU doesn't matter. I've been through three GPU upgrades on my system and I've seen significant improvement Rachel time, with all other components constant. FSX requires a balanced system, with all components supporting each other. The 9800 GPU is a serious bottleneck.

I can agree with you on that cause I upgraded from a 9800 GX2 to a GTX 480 and had a nice jump in FPS to where I was able to turn all my sliders up to max except water. That and making sure hyperthreading was off helps

I get 35 fps at gate 22 YMML with Orbx even 25-28 at YBBN Orbx Go sort you install out or your PC Calling PMDG liars is not going to help you in anyway

Yes, but what scenery settings do you have additionally, in particular, the scenery settings on the OrbX control panels for YMML and YBBN? I have a system that is very similar in basic configuration of hardware to yours. I was getting between 20 and 30FPS (locked externally at 30 using an external limiter) at YSCH Coffs Harbour in OrbX land, with the PeopleFlow Virgin 737 disabled. I had autogen set to normal (with a tweak limiting the object number per cell) and scenery set to dense (for all GA aircraft I have, I use autogen dense with the tweak and scenery set to max density). The left hand sliders are generally set to max right except water... I use no AI traffic at all and have road and boat traffic turned off as well. A slight worrier was the stutter just before landing... I don't know what caused that, but I have only had one full circuit so far, as time is really limited at the moment. One to look at over time. I am sure it is something associated with my set up, as nobody else here has mentioned it so far. At least, I have not read any thread mentioning it... I haven't even looked into the optimization suggestions, as I found the best performance to be with the cfg I currently use. This is after months of trying out various settings suggested by Nick Needham, ******* Altuve, and correlating with what a lot of you have written here over the years. It turns out that most of the cfg tweaks have little or no net effect in my case. The HIGHMEMFIX is good, the autogen limiter works well to give me a good view and relatively good performance. Ryan's comments on tweaks and so on have been particularly helpful, so my thanks there too! Andrew

FSX is CPU bound we all know this. Some people go out and get the fastest CPU they can find thinking FSX will now scream through the frames like the youtube videos they watched but...Things don't work like that. In order to maximize your CPU you have to remove bottlenecks from your entire chain/system. You need a fast video card not so much because FSX needs it but because your CPU requires it to operate at its best. You need a robust power supply to provide adequate power to your CPU and your high end video card. Think of it like a car. You can stick a turbo charger on a 1996 Ford Festiva but its really not going to be as fast as a Turbo Charger on a sports car. Point being you need to build your PC to support the heavy workload FSX will put the CPU through. That being said, I do not overclock my video card. I run with a GTX 580 an i7920 OC to around 3.6ghz and a 1000 watt powersupply with plenty of cooling. For me FSX runs nice and smooth with the "******* tweaks" that are linked in the PMDG manuals as well as using an external frame rate limiter and setting FSX to unlimited. Guthrie Z

which software do you use for overclockingvivek

There is no software just adjustments in your bios as I said join overclockers.net they will walk you thru it for sure, an overclock is day and night performance in fsx.

It's practically impossible to performance test software on every hardware and software configuration out there. If you did that, nobody would ever release anything....The most you can hope for is adequate performance on a snapshot of commonly used system configurations. I have what I would call a mid level system (I5 750 clocked 3.8 Ghz, 8 gig ram, nvidia GTS 250) and it runs fine in VC mode. Thats also with Ultimate traffic 2 on 80%, aerosoft extreme airports and track IR. If I were you, I'd look at what processes you have running in the background and if you are running short on memory.

So here's a question: I currently have both Win 7 64-bit and FSX running on an Corsair 120gb SSD. I also have 300 GB Velociraptor drive that I used to run FSX on before I bought the SSD. Is running both windows and FSX off the SSD the best way to go? Or should I spilt them and put one on the velociraptor? -Chris Virgilio

Hi, You did move the page file to the HD, right? And the Restore Points? Various folks/threads in Tom's Hardware, Bleeping Computer, and maybe Maximum PC all say never, never put the page file on an SSD. I dunno about FSX, but it makes a big difference in just everyday use. Dan "lensman" Davison