August 14, 201114 yr In the US forget it.. but maybe in other countries if your hot and female maybe you have a chance.And as we all know, our target audience is filled to the brim with them..... ; ) Arjen Nederstigt System: Intel Skylake Core i7 6700K @ 4.0GHz / Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme / Kingston 2x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz, CL15 Microsoft Windows 10 Home
August 14, 201114 yr SW policy is must have Pilot Certificate, Current Medical, and valid Company ID and only allow part 121 and 135 carrier pilots.. Even then, Skipper can say no.. Oh, dress neat and shave .. :)
August 14, 201114 yr Commercial Member I get in the LIAT Cockpit a lot I just ask to visit, show off my knowledge then they ask if I want to join!Another story in American... Jamaljé,In the Caribbean it is not really a case that things are slack down there:1. the FAA and or TSA do not have control over the over the operations of the airlines in that region2. there have not been any incidents/accidents resulting in cockpit breaches in the caribbeanSo there really is no need for the airlines to become very strict, although I am sure that there are some rules governing jump-seat riding, and the final say rests with the captain. Just a quick break down as this can become a very lengthy topic: Jump-seating is a privilege extended to mostly Pilots and Flight Attendants.. although pilots are FAR less restrictive than Flight Attendants in how it works. Jump-seating is simply the act of riding for free on the aircraft and as such being an "Extra Crewmember." In the US things are very different post Sep.11th, where as before airline worker could ride the jump-seat with the permission of management or even the captain (again this all depends on what the airlines policy is/was regarding this). However, these days the cockpit jump-seat is driven by a system called CASS (Cockpit Access Security System - I think is the meaning) at least for most major and regional carriers. To become a part of the CASS system background checks have to be done on all personnel that are to have access to the cockpit. Your company ID is your gateway to the cockpit, If the airline that you plan to travel on is a part of the CASS system you may have access to the cockpit. Now if you are not approved for CASS but your airline has a "Reciprocal Agreement" with another airline that you are traveling on then you may get a seat in the back if the flight is not full. Personnel allowed to the flight deck:DODSecret ServiceFAANTSBPilotsDispatchersMechanics (not all airlines allow mechanics though)Training Personnel (Simulator techs, trainiers, etc.) Passengers may have access to the flightdeck (on the ground for viewing) if the captain allows them to do so. KROSWYND a.k.a KILO_WHISKEYMajestic Software Development/Support Sys 1: AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2: i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware: Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM gripSIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6: YouTube Videos
August 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member I work for DoD., and I can't get on the flight deck during a flight (not yet). I'm told you have to be on the airlines CAS list. I'm working on it though. Dave Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
August 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member Dave,The DOD does have access, we have them ride our JS at least once a year when they come in for inspections. No it is possible that only certain department of the DOD have that privilege (not sure). KROSWYND a.k.a KILO_WHISKEYMajestic Software Development/Support Sys 1: AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2: i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware: Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM gripSIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6: YouTube Videos
August 15, 201114 yr Pre 9/11/2001, I was fortunate to fly in the jump seat of UPS's Boeing 757 twice aweek, I lived in Montana and worked at the Commerce City Package Hub just outside Denver Colorado, (KBIL-KDEN) it was a great experience. However post 9/11 all the rules changed, it is expensive for companies in the US to get thier employees CAS certified, so the jumpseats are no longer full with non Air operations managers that needed a ride as I did.. But wow, it was a great experience, If I had to do it all over again, Aviation School here I come.... John. John Nelson Retired UPS
August 15, 201114 yr Just ask - worse they can do is say no. Helps if you have credentials, however... Matthew Bellette
August 15, 201114 yr Just ask - worse they can do is say no. Helps if you have credentials, however... That's what I was thinking. I'll make sure to ask next time I go on a flight since I work for Delta. Chris Ferguson PC Specs(Rebuilt 1/11/19): i7-9700K - Non-OC'd, EVGA RTX 2080ti, G.Skillz 16GB Ram 3000mhz, EVGA SuperNOVA 1000w PSU, Cooler Master ML360R, ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 MoBo, 2x 2TB HDD, 1x 1TB Samsung EVO SSD, 1x 220GB WD SSD
August 15, 201114 yr Commercial Member Paradox, save yourself the embarrassment it is not going to happen. Now I am not sure what Delta's policies are on Part 91 flight, but for a Part 121 flight I doubt it. KROSWYND a.k.a KILO_WHISKEYMajestic Software Development/Support Sys 1: AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2: i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware: Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM gripSIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6: YouTube Videos
August 15, 201114 yr I truly wish I had done this before 9/11 (Stupids A'Holes). I was just getting into flight at a young 16, I remember bringing offical FAA manuals on flights to read. I would have the book on the tray table trying to act like an undercover FAA inspector. I would look at the stewardess like "Ive got my eye on you". LOL. Whaaaaat a loser. Now, I will never have that chance, but, I am starting my PPL training. So I will finally fly, just not heavy iron. Eric Cuchel FSX | UTX | GEX | REX | UT2 | ASE | FSPX | ENB HDR | VOX HP DV6T Select Edition i7-640m 3.46Ghz | 8GB DDR3 1333 | ATI 5650 1GB (625/900) | 120GB Intel 520 SSD
August 15, 201114 yr I'm thinking that it never hurts to ask, smile, and look clean. Now you guys have me wondering what the policy is for Japan's airlines. I fly ANA a few times a year. I wonder if I could ride jump seat on my next flight to Guam... Derek RogersPC Specs: Intel i7-4790K 4.6GHz : 16GB RAM : GTX 970 4GB
August 15, 201114 yr If you're military on a military flight, you stand a good chance in UK. I used to get jump seat rides all the time on VC 10's and tristars. As an engineer, you also get the chance to go up on the occasional air test too, testing localizer capture angles, pre stall buffet and rapid decompressions on oxygen is great fun if you have confidence in the crew. Haven't asked in the civilian world yet because I doubt it's legal now in UK and US. "Military Intelligence is a contradiction in terms" Paul Yates
August 15, 201114 yr Author seems like we have lots of stories here. keep them coming As for tonight, im not perturbed by anything, im just gonna ask, will report back here as on my outbound to YYZ, i did get to talk to the pilots in the flight deck and snap photos an when i was leavin the aircraft the pilot chimed in for me to start flight school. Lets see if CAL is really the warmth of the Caribbean lol Sony Vaio VPCF110X Nvidia GeForce GT330M, i7Q720 @1.6-2.8Ghz 4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz Win 7 x64 Siddiq Ali
August 15, 201114 yr Hi all, was wondering im sure there alot of you here that have been on a 738 jumpseat and was just a passenger, Wanted to hear any of your experiences and how did you get that privelege? lol its a funny ques but interesting as well. im on caribbean airlines 738 tomorrow from YYZ and last time i was able to just talk to the pilots and take some pics of their office ! it was cool , but wouldnt it be better if i was allowed to ride jumpseat!? lol so your experiences Here in Europe, it definitely helped being a real-world pilot because even those who only have a PPL like myself are subject to the full security screening before getting their licenses issued.With the security part being clarified, it only took some coordination with the airline and a friendly talk with the captain to make it into the jumpseat. Dave P. Woycek
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