Im trying to find the best FPS limiter, but I dont know which one to use, or even if I should use one What arfe the benifits of using an external fps limiter? if it is benificial to use one, which one should I use?

The answer is definitely YES, You'll benefit a lot with external FPS limiter. If you're not an expert and have Nvidia graphic card, then wait for(as far as the rumors are on forums) a couple of weeks for next release of Nvidia drivers that will have a FPS limiter integrated in the driver. But if You have ATI GPU or You don't want to wait than http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html this is your option. With some reading and a couple of clicks you will definitely benefit - the weaker your hardware, the bigger your benefit. If you decide to go this way, only make sure you take your time to check for latest Java and clean install of it.

The answer is definitely YES, You'll benefit a lot with external FPS limiter. If you're not an expert and have Nvidia graphic card, then wait for(as far as the rumors are on forums) a couple of weeks for next release of Nvidia drivers that will have a FPS limiter integrated in the driver. But if You have ATI GPU or You don't want to wait than http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html this is your option. With some reading and a couple of clicks you will definitely benefit - the weaker your hardware, the bigger your benefit. If you decide to go this way, only make sure you take your time to check for latest Java and clean install of it.

ive used that program to configure m fsx.cfg before, but it doesnt have a fps limiter.. and tahts what im looking for.

You can download FPS Limiter v0.2 from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?2zzggw2zmym or here: http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/goodies/FPS_Limiter_0.2.rar

Link to download FPS limiter will be presented on second page, one you submit your fsx.cfg file for evaluation - read carefully contents of that page and you'll see among suggestions.

With the greatest respect to Andrej.... Michael, the information you have been given is incorrect, you will not definitely benefit from using a frame limiter. Neither will you definitely benefit from using the Venetubo tweaks. Using either of these to gain perfomance or smoothness depends ENTIRELY on the individual setup. Some people will swear blind that they benefit from using the limiter while many others, including myself, have seen no improvement whatsoever, even after exhaustive testing. The same is absolutely true with tweaking the cfg file. Many guys can run a vanilla setup and be perfectly happy, personally, I cannot get any respectable performance without the tweaks, in particular the RejectThreshold values. John Venema of Orbx fame, stands religiously by his view that his tweaks have been no use whatsoever. I personally have tweaked my cfg file over a six month period, spending ages making a small change at a time with each separate cfg value. I now have a cfg file that has increased my framerate by about 20-25% and also enhanced the smoothness. Why do some rigs work well with one particular tweak while others fail is the $50,000 question. In answer to your question 'should you use a limiter' well by all means try it, but have an open mind and be prerpared to bin it if it does not work for you. Who knows, you may be one of the lucky ones

Howard makes a good point for sure. It can get so frustrating sometimes when others get great benefit from certain tweaks and some of us see no improvement or worse performance. I sure wish I knew the answer to the $50,000 question.... how sweet it would be to buy a few nice things with that money! Best, Jeff

As i already mentioned in my previous post:

the weaker your hardware, the bigger your benefit

and if one already did some major adjustments to cfg and those were steps in the right direction, then benefits won't be so obvious.But compared with untouched fsx.cfg, there are benefits. Especially true on low to mid-end computers.I have two machines, one is now getting pretty old and on that machine (E8500, GTX260, 4GB 1600MHz DDR3, win/xp) with dense scenery, clouds and rain I had 19-21FPS, after the web suggested fsx.cfg+ FPS limiter I got almost solid 30FPS. I consider this a benefit. On the second one (Phenom 975 oc. to 4.0GHz, Radeon HD 6770, 8BG 2000 DDR, win7-64) a saw no FPS improvement(I already had 30 in same flight situation), but simulation definitely floooows smooooothly. Much smoother than before the tweaks and external FPS limiter. And I consider that to also be a benefit. And, Howard, I do completely agree with you on one thing:

Using either of these to gain perfomance or smoothness depends ENTIRELY on the individual setup.

and consider anybody's experience with any add on as subjective report of her/his results with just about anything or everything. I'm assembling computers for some time now and I can tell you, not even two computers with same hardware configuration behave and perform the same from the very start. If we start from this fact, then it becomes pretty obvious, results even on the same hardware configurations, will differ quite a bit. Not to mention "personal interventions" to OS settings that have enormous effects to performance.

I found that the only benefit to using the external limiter was that I was able to reduce stutters while enjoying the additional performance awarded by using unlimited fps in FSX. However, with some sceneries you will experience blurries with FSX set at unlimited and it does NOT completely eliminate micro stutters. The limiter works well if you set it up correctly. Many had problems just getting it to work. I hope that the next nvidia driver does have a limiter incorporated. There are payware aircraft that require FSX to be set to unlimited for best performance.

With the greatest respect to Andrej.... Michael, the information you have been given is incorrect, you will not definitely benefit from using a frame limiter. Neither will you definitely benefit from using the Venetubo tweaks. Using either of these to gain perfomance or smoothness depends ENTIRELY on the individual setup. Some people will swear blind that they benefit from using the limiter while many others, including myself, have seen no improvement whatsoever, even after exhaustive testing. The same is absolutely true with tweaking the cfg file. Many guys can run a vanilla setup and be perfectly happy, personally, I cannot get any respectable performance without the tweaks, in particular the RejectThreshold values. John Venema of Orbx fame, stands religiously by his view that his tweaks have been no use whatsoever. I personally have tweaked my cfg file over a six month period, spending ages making a small change at a time with each separate cfg value. I now have a cfg file that has increased my framerate by about 20-25% and also enhanced the smoothness. Why do some rigs work well with one particular tweak while others fail is the $50,000 question. In answer to your question 'should you use a limiter' well by all means try it, but have an open mind and be prerpared to bin it if it does not work for you. Who knows, you may be one of the lucky ones

Well said, and I agree with you completely. I too have seen huge leaps in performance using the fsx.cfg tweaks that have been offered and can clearly demonstrate the depth of those benefits with a side by side comparison using a vanilla config file. So, no one is going to discount my personal results, but I do submit that it completely depends on your individual setup. Also, for me, using the external frame limiter actually introduces stutters into my sim. No I don't know why, and frankly it made no sense to me initially and was the reason it took me a while to find, but when using the limiter over complex scenery, such as ORBX stuff, the sim stutters something fierce. If I lock frames within the sim, smooth as silk. Again different strokes for different folks.

What I've actually done lately is to run the external at 30 fps. Then set in-game limiter to 30. It's just a touch better than external at 30 and in-game at unlimited.

??? I thought the limiter, by definition, only worked when internal fps was set to unlimited, otherwise you wouln't need it. Mark

I think the external limiter works, regardless of what you do with the internal limiter, but the point of the external limiter is that fsx works differently when the internal limiter is set to unlimited, so you can tweak fsx.cfg for internal fame limited or for internal frame unlimited (or have two different fsx.cfg, one for each situation and compare). scott s..

??? I thought the limiter, by definition, only worked when internal fps was set to unlimited, otherwise you wouln't need it. Mark

That's what I thought too, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

You can download FPS Limiter v0.2 from here: http://www.mediafire.com/?2zzggw2zmym or here: http://www.vaafse.org/simskunkworks/goodies/FPS_Limiter_0.2.rar

Is there anyone who knows if it's possible to have this FPS limiter work together with the ENB mod?