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Are they keeping an eye on us?

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WhenI was fluying the 737 sim, I made a turn that caused the "BANK ANGLE" alarm to go off. I asked the instrtuctor is tat a problem for the passangers. He said no, but I would get a nasty message at the gate from Operations. He said Operations sees everything we do and all alarms are reported back to them.What kind of stuff is a do you get yelled at for? and what will get you in big trouble? What can Operations see?Over speeding, bank angles, ???

Paul Gugliotta

This has been here for quite some time, read here, very interesting...http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/jsp_includes/articlePrint.jsp?headLine=In-Flight%20Monitoring%20Systems%20for%20Business%20Aviation:%20Part%201&storyID=news/bca092011p2.xml

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Ryanair have a special reporting device installed in the tail section of all their 737NG's.If a pilot does anything unusual or out of the ordinary it gets sent back to headquarters.I know a few pilots who hate this and find it very intimidating. Some pilots even get a text message as soon as they landtelling them what they did wrong.Where is it all going to end ?Fred.

Frederic Steiner.

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I saw a film of United Airlines operations one time, and they had replicasof the panel, gauges, etc in the operations center. They could see just abouteverything you were doing, N speeds, temps, the whole works.. I imaginethey switched the display from plane to plane, depending on which theywanted to look at, or were suspecting a problem with.And that was a few years back. It's probably even more sophisticated now..Assuming the airline is big enough to spend the money on all that stuff..

Mark Keith

Ryanair have a special reporting device installed in the tail section of all their 737NG's.If a pilot does anything unusual or out of the ordinary it gets sent back to headquarters.I know a few pilots who hate this and find it very intimidating. Some pilots even get a text message as soon as they landtelling them what they did wrong.Where is it all going to end ?Fred.
I'll tell you Fred,The other day I was using the Dubai Metro. I was standing in the very front of the train, where the driver is supposed to be. Everything there is automatic. So, why not - the day when there will be no pilots in the cockpit maybe coming, huh..

 

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Martin Martinov / VATSIM 1207931

I'll tell you Fred,The other day I was using the Dubai Metro. I was standing in the very front of the train, where the driver is supposed to be. Everything there is automatic. So, why not - the day when there will be no pilots in the cockpit maybe coming, huh..
trains are easy. There are only a few variables that are largely controlled or planned for.Until humans can control all the variables of flying such as weather and gravity, automated air travel will never happen

Mitch

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The most crucial thing with trains is - when in doubt, stop and wait for a person. Autopilot cant do that...

--Peter Fabian 
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Some companies use a FOQA (Flight Operations Quality Assurance) system. Airline will input the parameters and when it's exceeded it will send operations a message and the data will be reviewed. The data is used to identify an trends that may affect the safety of flights. It's designed to help improve the safe operation of the aircraft by being able to review these situations. Stick to the company SOPs and you should avoid getting a FOQA.

Ian McDougall

CPL MEIR 737-800

We use FOQA too. At first, it feels quite strange to be monitored during each fase of the flight.I guess it kind off feels like the introduction of Flight Data Recorders.However, a few months in, the statistics don't lie. I can't give any specific figure, but FOQA helps.... A lot!

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Ryanair have a special reporting device installed in the tail section of all their 737NG's.If a pilot does anything unusual or out of the ordinary it gets sent back to headquarters.I know a few pilots who hate this and find it very intimidating. Some pilots even get a text message as soon as they landtelling them what they did wrong.Where is it all going to end ?Fred.
One of those...Gr, Big brother in reality! Really is ridiculous... I remember being asked why I did a certain thing after that so called 'reporting system' said I did something 'non-standard operationally' ... SighAirlines need to stop spying...But I doubt that day will ever happen.

Craig Harris

'NG Driver' for an airline whom shall not be named...

We had this come up once in our ops. During data downloads, someone brought up the fact that some of the flights were getting below vref on approach. Quickly this became a hot topic. During a meeting, i asked the question, " did anyone consider the effects that turbulence has on airspeed with and without autothrottles engaged?". I also brought up that many times i've seen the moose antlers(slow speed warning) in moderate turbulence on approach. Very bumpy approaches in KCOS. After some research, they noticed that the duration of the occurrences were less than 2 seconds. Quickly the topic disappeared.

I think it's a good thing. In the event of a crash or serious incident the investigators will need to know if the pilot has a history of 'non-standard' manoeuvres, bad airman-ship or mishaps. For the sake of safety it's a must.

Chris Farrell

"Captain Dave" who blogs about his adventures as an Airbus A32x captain at http://flightlevel390.blogspot.com has written often about how the various aircraft he operates "phone home to mother" behind the scenes.In a recent blog post, one of the center tank fuel pumps tripped its circuit breaker during one particular trip. He and his first officer had barely finished running through the QRH procedure for an inop pump, when he received a text message from company dispatch via ACARS, requesting verification that there had been a fuel pump failure.Probably no more than a minute or two had elapsed. Obviously maintenance status messages must get sent almost instantaneously when something fails - at least in his airline's Airbus fleet.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

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