I suspect that CS have done what they did with their 727, i.e. gone for an average on the flight modeling thrust values even though things differ between variants, which did effect static inertia on that one. Thus you might find that the 100 and 200 have a bit more go since the modeling is for the ADV too. I've not checked this for certain on the CS 737 by the way, but it has tended to be the way CS makes its old Boeings, the 707 was that way too.

 

As I noted earlier on this thread, if there was one thing I'd like to see CS doing, it would be a more accurate simulation of EPR, although I think we might have to wait for A2A's F-104 and F4 to see that sort of thing really taken to the Nth degree, both of which will have AccuSim GE J79's. The other reason I'm looking forward to them pulling that off, is because the Convair 880 and 990 both used that engine, and you never know...

 

Al

Yes, the 727 case is still present in my mind and wasn't a big deal. They came in a bit to weak for me and in regard to rw values, but that free FDE mod helped, not only in that aspect. Still a big recommendation, that mod from Michael2.

 

Well, Mark gave a nice comparison of the 0.9 737 thrust values and the current 1.0 ones. They are way higher now and, without looking at possible changes in the air file though, I think that this large addition of thrust leads to the behaviour we are seeing. I don't know why the change happened, maybe due to customers wishes and reports. But I will most likely be better off with lower ones, rendering the 737 a nice small airliner as the artwork and also system detail is great. I just can't stand the power coming too easy in the landing config for example. As mentioned, the takeoff plus 250 kts also happened too fast for me.

She is a good performer in that regard, but not that good. Some Boeing doc, giving a nice overview on the 737 family. http://www.boeing.co...aps/737sec3.pdf

 

Very true on the EPR values and maybe even engine behaviour (spool up times at low/high rpm). However, as much as I applaud to the devs running a custom engine model, I think I've learned to live with that offset, even on my beloved 707. Quite some folks got a fresh and well modelled 737 for 30 Euros, that surely is a nice achievement.

 

I know that Michael2 modded the 727 with a new EPR gauge, which was perfect for me. But he's reported problems on doing the same with the 3D gauges of the later models, namely the 707.

Edited. If you or someone else is a xml code guy, you could edit the EPR gauges. Just stating this because I'm also looking for someone helping on the (for me) slowish gauge refresh rate. The frames per second on the plane are very good, so there may be some headroom to give the gauges a boost. Just guessing.

 

Count me in on the upcoming A2A titles by the way.

In the real aircraft, the engine bleeds do not need to be switched on for engine start, as long as the APU is running and the APU bleed it switched on.

 

But like the Heading Bug, who cares huh? .......... it looks so nice, that's what matters. And if all you're going to do is push the throttles forward, fly around, and land your flying textures, who cares about operability!

 

This one will be far better than the MilViz one, because the MilViz one will be set up for realistic operation simulation, and who wants to mess around with that, when you can just get flying so quickly in this Captain Sim version

 

Bye guys, and keep your eye out for the next black sheep, or anyone else who threatens the lowest common denominator appeal, by thinking differently on anything.

 

Huh?

 

You seem to be under the impression that PMDG systems fidelity is the norm... Good luck with that. In the mean time, take a chill pill!

I bought it yesterday....nice bird, overall! Something I noticed was the speed at which the flaps extend/retract...seems way to fast. (Of course, I've been flying the NGX lately! )

It is a while since I chatted to a 200 pilot, but if I recall correctly, the engine bleed switches do need to be on in a 737-200 or 100 when you crank it; it will actually start without them, but apparently you can damage some systems such as the APU if they are off, so they are generally left on.

 

There are quite a lot of little operational differences on earlier 737 overheads, such as the engine start switch positions and the pressurisation. The air ducting is very different on them too, the difference in the ducting was actually what led the pilots of the British Midland 737-400 which came down on the M1 at Kegworth to believe their right engine was malfunctioning when it was in fact the left one at fault.

 

Al

Anyone else getting consistent CTD's while operating the PDCS?

At least CS is up front about what is included so far and what is not.

 

No they are not! At least not in the department of: We will help you when you find out all the little details we missed or were to lazy to fix.

 

Remember Ariane Designs? Regardless, CS is on my list: Schisters list. NTDBWA (Never To Do Business With Again). Just a matter of time before they make your list.

No they are not! At least not in the department of: We will help you when you find out all the little details we missed or were to lazy to fix.

 

Remember Ariane Designs? Regardless, CS is on my list: Schisters list. NTDBWA (Never To Do Business With Again). Just a matter of time before they make your list.

 

Marc,

 

At what point did you decide to pile Ariane with Captain Sim? Why? I'm not seeing anything worth reading in your post. No warnings, no suggestions. Just nonsensical bashing.

Hi! I had the same problem with the PDCS! After a reboot of my machine, they got better. But I still can trigger a CTD by clicking different buttons on the PDCS very fast.

Definetly something wrong there...

Anyone else getting consistent CTD's while operating the PDCS?

Yep an horrible landing to the desktop.

Just on pushing button on PDCS

PDCS doesn't seem to crash mine at all. More info which might nail it down: Win 7 64 Bit, I7 processor, FSX with Acceleration and the CS-737 100 and 200 both installed. I installed them in this order: 100, 200, then 200 upgrade.

 

Al

No problems here either and i just completed another flight on it.

I had one CTD when operating the PDCS on the first few flights. I did not repeat itself, so I'm not sure who's to blame.

 

I saw the folks in the CS forums already working out some altered thrust and even drag variables. Just stating this for the guys interested in a slightly less sporty performance of this nice plane. I'm looking into the Civa integration right now, but as some other folks already tried, I think my chances are slim. Edited. No luck. I can't drive the AP in any mode.

 

Am I the only one being impressed by the artwork in the cockpit?

At what point did you decide to pile Ariane with Captain Sim? Why? I'm not seeing anything worth reading in your post. No warnings, no suggestions. Just nonsensical bashing.

 

I dont bash unless I have good reason 2. These guys were of no help when I could not activate their problem, or I mean product, sorry not enough coffee yet. They took several days at a time to get back to me on each go around and would just do the usuall it's in the FAQ or this issue has been adressed or you doing it wrong and other belittling remarks when this was an issue others were having as well and had to do with my system and others but nothing was in their online documentation. A fix did come out but by then it was to late and it was from someone else found on a forum, not them. So I did get it to work after a few weeks and I found out that it was a far cry from as advertised by Ariane. They make it sound like the NGX or something and it is jus not even close. It was like a "who do these people think they are" kind of moment just like after dealing with the CS 767.

 

I am sorry but after doing buissness with a company like PMDG or Active Sky, the customer service and dedication to their product and customer are a guidline all should follow. The great thing about the free market is that people will just stop buying their stuff over time. Why would you pay 3 times more (Ariane) for something that is 3 times less along with very poor support.

 

Put it this way Zack. Anytime after buying an FSX product you go online to troubleshoot the problem because the developer does not get back to you in a timely fashion and then you go: Why did I not hit the forums FIRST on this before I bought from them? Because you discover all sorts of people saying the same negative things. I have no one to blame for but myself for not using the best tool in the world before deciding to do business with someone.

Is the rest of us allowed to use Captain Sim products or the ones of any other devs in the business without your approval, Marc? I mean, it's not like we don't offer any help to your problems leading to the bashy attitude on this or that dev.

 

I dont bash unless I have good reason 2.

Reporting problems and bugs is one thing, staying open for receiving help is another one but I think before starting to bash, you should ask yourself if that's what forums like these are about. Looking at the good examples of constructive posts, even about bugs, shows that there isn't a lack of role-models. Stay positive!