Hi,I have finally installed (and unstalled) Flight yesterday. One of the reasons for not keeping it for me were 2 sections in the license agreement. But maybe some of you already have some experience and are able to lift my concerns.1) The license agreement stated that Flight is not sold, but only licensed to 1 system. I did not see if it is possible to move an existing copy of Flight and addons to a new system (e.g. in case you update your hardware). Does anyone know if it will be possible to move Flight to a new system, or would you have to pay for all addons again?2) According to the license agreement all changes to overcome limitations of the program are prohibited. So strictly speaking this would apply to any kind of tweaking of cfg files etc. Or how would you interpret this section? I have seen there are already some tweaks posted (e.g. for changing the view point).I hope some of you can help me with the questions. I don't want to start an extensive discussion, but am just interested what can or cannot be done with Flight before putting any time and money into the program.Thanks!Kind regardsManuel

1) The license agreement stated that Flight is not sold, but only licensed to 1 system. I did not see if it is possible to move an existing copy of Flight and addons to a new system (e.g. in case you update your hardware). Does anyone know if it will be possible to move Flight to a new system, or would you have to pay for all addons again?

Yes you can. Your DLC you buy is linked to your Live account so when you log in to it on your new machine it (should) re-download your DLC.

2) According to the license agreement all changes to overcome limitations of the program are prohibited. So strictly speaking this would apply to any kind of tweaking of cfg files etc. Or how would you interpret this section? I have seen there are already some tweaks posted (e.g. for changing the view point)

As far as I'm aware it's still possible to tweak the CFG file. Not that you really need to.

According to the license agreement all changes to overcome limitations of the program are prohibited

HelloThis was also part of the FSX EULA , it never stopped the third party developers from advancing the platform to what it is today.

Thanks a lot! That was quick :-)

HelloThis was also part of the FSX EULA , it never stopped the third party developers from advancing the platform to what it is today.

But this isn't FSX.

I have to give you a nod, I suspect you are probably in a class of a very few, that actually read those darn things!I myself don't concern myself much with such things - when I do a new computer build later this year, I have little doubt I will be able to sign in to Games for Windows Live and redownload/install the program. I have also teaked some lines in the standard.xml for my controller, to adjust joystick sensitivity and trim sensitivity. These like the latter are there to support being able to do so for the sim , and did not make the interface within the sim most likely because of the early release date. I am glad they put them there so we can at least go in and edit them to tweak to our liking, if they did not want us adjusting them they undoubtedly would not have taken the time to include them...With the ecosystem they have with Flight - anything done that really does conflict and is a big no no, undoubtedly will get changed pretty quickly I suspect as they have access to all that information now.

I am glad somebody read the thing. Please let us know if there was anything else in there we may actually need to know.

IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer), but I don't think changing the viewpoint is 'overcoming a limitation'. Hacking DLC so you can use it without having purchased it for example would be. Arguably so would hacking Flight to be able to add in your own planes. Where your viewpoint is is not a limitation that MS has put on your use of Flight, only using DLC purchased from MS is.

1) The license agreement stated that Flight is not sold, but only licensed to 1 system. I did not see if it is possible to move an existing copy of Flight and addons to a new system (e.g. in case you update your hardware). Does anyone know if it will be possible to move Flight to a new system, or would you have to pay for all addons again?

I currently have Flight installed on six of my development flightsim computers, each of which has the DLC I've bought installed. Well, actually I got all but the Maule free as a reward for being a beta tester... :Peace:Of course, I can only load and run one at a time since I have only one LIVE login account. That's one of the really neat things about Flight, since you could have Flight on your home computer and your laptop, and your LIVE data will remain synchronized for the most part...

I deal with software licensing as part of my work and what n4gix is doing makes good. It would not be okay if all his family or friends were using those 6 machines at the same time.I am really not sure how to interpret #2, I'll have to go back and read the language I never read. I would potentially consider that new (cool) add-on to be potentially in conflict because while it is not payware, it could easily cut into their market for a similar DLC. We will have to wait and see what they do there...

I deal with software licensing as part of my work and what n4gix is doing makes good. It would not be okay if all his family or friends were using those 6 machines at the same time.

Even if I had any family or possibly a visitor here who could load and run Flight on one of my machines, they'd have to have their own LIVE account to do so, and then none of my DLC would be available for them to use. Of course, if I allowed them to use my LIVE account, I'd not be able to run Flight myself until they logged off, and any XP or other things they "earned" would affect my stats, not theirs!Suppose that they owned some DLC that I didn't already have. They'd be able to download and install it when using their account, but after they left that DLC would not be available to me, even though it was taking up room on my hard drive! :LMAO:

undoubtedly will get changed pretty quickly I suspect as they have access to all that information now.

That is true, MS is likely doing checksum's on file integrity when you log into Live.

When these not reading the EULA discussions come up... why do I always think of South Park? ; )