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At 2:20 am today, one hundred years ago....

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...the 'unsinkable' Titanic slipped to her watery grave with 1520 souls lost!

 

I was up at that very hour this morning, and felt a strong shudder crawl down my spine. I said a prayer for those souls lost.

 

I always thought though, what if...what if you could have gone back, from a future moment, and been able to convince the captain of the danger the ship was facing....and being successful with that, RMS Titanic would finally make her New York port-of-call.

 

You would have saved those 1520 lives. Yes...but time is a river, that flows, has physical traits like currents, eddies, back-flows...

 

What if by having saved those 1520 souls...and the very ship itself from that date with destiny and the glancing blow of the side of the iceberg,...that you might then because of how time back-flows into an event, and does not wish to be disturbed.....

 

....that you might then be ultimately responsible a day, a month, or years later, for the death of 3,000 or more different souls, because the very same Titanic, might be found to have had a collision with another passenger liner in a bout of fog off the European coast, with the loss at that time of BOTH ships. Of course this WOULD NOT have happened had Titanic's original fate not been altered.

 

This is the paradox and danger of Time Travel...a technology, and even according to String Theory, that could come online in some future point in time. Time is a river....and rivers don't like to change their course, unless it is the river that initiates it. If Man intervenes...could a disaster be waiting from the interference of? 'Time'...would tell.

 

Something I thought about, as I maintained a minute of silence this morning.....

 

Mitch

You mean RMS Titanic, not HMS Titanic, she was a Royal Mail Steamer, not a Royal Navy vessel. But yes, it was a very sad occurence, however, it did lead to both the commencement of the International Ice Patrol in the Atlantic (which still goes on today) and the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea's revised policy, which ratified the mandatory provision of sufficient liferafts/boats for all passengers aboard any ocean going vessel.

 

And on the subject of spooky stuff with regard to the Titanic and the mysteries of time, you might like this:

 

http://en.wikipedia....ck_of_the_Titan

 

Al

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You mean RMS Titanic, not HMS Titanic, she was a Royal Mail Steamer, not a Royal Navy vessel. But yes, it was a very sad occurence, however, it did lead to both the commencement of the International Ice Patrol in the Atlantic (which still goes on today) and the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea's revised policy, which ratified the mandatory provision of sufficient liferafts/boats for all passengers aboard any ocean going vessel.

 

And on the subject of spooky stuff with regard to the Titanic and the mysteries of time, you might like this:

 

http://en.wikipedia....ck_of_the_Titan

 

 

Al

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Thanks Al, I saw my error, and corrected by edit in my O.P.

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I came across a thread asking what if the titanic hadn't sunk?

 

A lot of powerful and influential people went down on that ship. At the very least we would have been spared celine dion singing.

Rob Prest

 

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I came across a thread asking what if the titanic hadn't sunk?

 

A lot of powerful and influential people went down on that ship. At the very least we would have been spared celine dion singing.

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Celine.....?

The ironic part about the sinking of the Titanic is that the ship would almost certainly have survived if they had simply rammed the iceberg head on!

Christopher Low

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Being a Maritime Canadian you grew up around three disasters, The Titanic, the Halifax Explosion and Swiss Air Flight 111. I used to walk by the graves of the Titanic victims as I lived near the cemetary. I went to school only metres from Ground Zero of the Halifax Explosion. I could see the reconstruction of Flight 111 from my living room window as I lived across from CFB Shearwater.

 

With the Titanic, events unfolded as they did so I never bought the 'What If' scenario. What I do beleive is their was a coal fire in the hold below and this is the reason why they were steaming so fast across the Atlantic late at night in an ice field, so they could burn off as much coal as possible to extenguish the smoldering fire.

 

Coal is a stubborn fuel and one of the stores in the hold I believe were burning from when they left England in a small fire but got worse. They went full steam to try and use up as much coal as possible to deal with the situation.

 

Accidents are always a sequence of events where one thing leads to another. I think this sequence of events began with a smouldering coal fire down below. Just my POV and others may have a different opinion.

 

Cheers

Matthew Kane

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The Titanic disaster occured because no one conceive ithat it could happen - that's why there was insufficient lifeboat capacity. The history of accidents to shipping,railways, and aircraft is bedevilled by that simple fact. Despite that, the argument that "it's never happened before" is to often used to avoid necessary safety expenditure. That is fine until it does happen.

Gerry Howard

The Titanic disaster occured because no one conceivde ithat it could happen.

 

Not entirely true. There were books published and articles written before the Titanic disaster that outlined pretty much what happened with the Titanic. A few authors and maritime experts were aware of the potential for this disaster and had already published before the disaster (kind of like predicting an A380 disaster today). It was the White Star Lines that called it virtually 'unsinkable' as part of the marketing. This became part of the legend of the Titanic after the tragedy (mostly because it made for great newspaper headlines).

 

I don't think the general population gave it much thought before the disaster.

Matthew Kane

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I live quite close to Cobh (Queeenstown) the Titanic's last port of call. The old White Star Line building is still there and the Cunard building too.

(Many of the bodies from the later sinking of Cunard's Lusitania were buried in the local cemetary.)

I have a passenger trunk from the Titanic's sister ship The Olympic which was given to me by one of my uncles.

The Titanic was the 2nd of Whits Star's 3 transatlantic liners, the 3rd being the Brittanic. It never saw service as a passenger ship.

It was used as a hospital ship in the meditteranean during WW1 and sunk by a german U boat. All 3 ships were built in Belfast Northern Ireland.

 

One lucky Irish priest (Fr. Brown) boarded the Titanic at Le Havre France but got off at Cobh Ireland. His personal photo collection is now world famous.

Seemingly his family made him a present of the short trip on the ill fated liner.

 

Fred.

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Very sad indeed!

 

At my school we did a project over this ship, and did you know Isidor Straus and Ida Straus were on the Titanic?? They are the co-founders of Macy's. Also, Leonardo DiCaprio was on it. :Just Kidding:

 

But anyway, I'd love to see the movie in 3D. About the Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan, that was very scary for it to happen 14 years later. That Wikipedia page Al mentioned says that they sold this novel at the second class' library... I mean, that is pretty scary.

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Also, Leonardo DiCaprio was on it. :Just Kidding:

 

I always condidered that Titanic film the other Titanic disaster....

 

One of the graves in Fairview Cemetery is for J Dawson, I used to walk past it all the time when cutting through Fairview Cemetery, and after that movie girls started leaving flowers on that grave thinking it was Leonardo (Jack Dawson) down there. Some people thought the movie was real. LOL

 

The person in the grave is believed to be Joseph Dawson:

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/joseph-dawson.html

 

Us locals got a kick out of these silly girls paying respects to what they thought was Jack Dawson.

 

Cheers

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

I always condidered that Titanic film the other Titanic disaster....

 

One of the graves in Fairview Cemetery is for J Dawson, I used to walk past it all the time when cutting through Fairview Cemetery, and after that movie girls started leaving flowers on that grave thinking it was Leonardo (Jack Dawson) down there. Some people thought the movie was real. LOL

 

The person in the grave is believed to be Joseph Dawson:

http://www.encyclope...eph-dawson.html

 

Us locals got a kick out of these silly girls paying respects to what they thought was Jack Dawson.

 

Cheers

 

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I always condidered that Titanic film the other Titanic disaster....

 

I'm not sure why, considering that it's an excellent movie.

Christopher Low

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