May 2, 201214 yr I like the look of it. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 2, 201214 yr Me too.. Looks interesting.. I'm not sure if they are willing to sacrifice the weight for the batteries it would need, but hey who knows, they are always making advancements..
May 3, 201214 yr :unknw: A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
May 3, 201214 yr Moderator Just how much thrust would spinning turbine blades with an electric motor produce? My guess is - not much... :LMAO: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
May 3, 201214 yr Just how much thrust would spinning turbine blades with an electric motor produce? My guess is - not much... :LMAO: This is true. Just like how much energy does one gallon of petrol produce compared to a battery. Electricity comes no where near this kind of energy. I can do things like ride a bike to work instead of drive (which I do), however their is only so far you can go with alternatives. Even my riding a bike to work costs energy as then my appetite goes up and I eat more. Food is produced using petrol and carbon anyways so the petrol I saved on my bike was lost with my increased appetite, increasing carbon in the food supply chain. :LMAO: Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 3, 201214 yr Author Just how much thrust would spinning turbine blades with an electric motor produce? My guess is - not much... :LMAO: Well considering the majority of the power comes from spinning the fan blades then I would say it could help quite a bit. You'd be amazed at how much power you can get out of an electric motor. Chris Miller
May 3, 201214 yr Silly name, ugly plane, but if they can make it work, great! To me though it's about as exciting as the latest advancement in dishwasher technology... Rolf Lindbom
May 3, 201214 yr Well considering the majority of the power comes from spinning the fan blades then I would say it could help quite a bit. You'd be amazed at how much power you can get out of an electric motor. Electric Motors are powerful but the challenge is producing the electricity needed to power these motors compared to using fossil fuels. This is the challenge behind this project. With a few more years of R&D....Maybe. It would make for a great regional carrier if it can be done. I am just thinking if a hybrid turbo prop would be the better approach. A Propeller would be more efficient with an electric motor powering it, and have the turbine for the power needed during take-off. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 3, 201214 yr Just how much thrust would spinning turbine blades with an electric motor produce? My guess is - not much... :LMAO: They said it would use fuel for takeoff and high power requirements. Regards Luke M
May 3, 201214 yr Well considering the majority of the power comes from spinning the fan blades then I would say it could help quite a bit. You'd be amazed at how much power you can get out of an electric motor. Well, for comparison the new locos being purchased for AMTRAC NEC trains are rated at 6.4 Mw, while the induciton motors going into the US Navy's Zumwalt DDG1000 are around 20 Mw or so (each). Of course the Navy ship is using Trent 800s to produce the electricity needed. By comparison a 747 flying @ 0.9M is producing about 65Mw. scott s. .
May 3, 201214 yr Well, for comparison the new locos being purchased for AMTRAC NEC trains are rated at 6.4 Mw, while the induciton motors going into the US Navy's Zumwalt DDG1000 are around 20 Mw or so (each). Of course the Navy ship is using Trent 800s to produce the electricity needed. By comparison a 747 flying @ 0.9M is producing about 65Mw. scott s. . Biggest difference between Rail and Marine applications compared to Aviation is weight. A turbine producing electricity to power an electric motor is heavy, not a problem on a train because it needs weight for traction and a ship needs weight for ballast. This configuration would be too heavy for an aircraft. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 3, 201214 yr Even hybrid cars are way heavier then their gasoline only counterparts due to the huge batteries in the belly..
May 3, 201214 yr Even hybrid cars are way heavier then their gasoline only counterparts due to the huge batteries in the belly.. I am not a big fan of those Hybrid Cars either. By the time you produced the engine, electrical engine and battery you have just created a much larger impact on the environment with the increased production and supply chain. The car is sold for more and the driver saves a little money on gas. The battery needs replacement and disposing, two engines need maintanence instead of one. If you really wanted to buy a car that was going to help the environment you would buy a Honda Fit with a 1.3 Litre Engine. Drive it only when needed and not to heavy on the accelerator. This car is close to the same milage as a hybrid without the extra battery and motor. It is much easier to produce a Fit compared to a Hybrid as well. Sells for much less. Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
May 4, 201214 yr Commercial Member I figure, set an ambitious goal, indentify the problems, and engineer solutions. It’s hard to knock that :) even if it remains a concept (by 2030-50). BTW, doesn’t Jaguar’s new hybrid car use a compact turbine APU? I like that idea; you get all the performance benefits of electric drive today, and get to keep the noise of combustion (maybe too much noise). Sort of like a locomotive. Someday I suspect people will even prefer electric for its torque.
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