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I've been thinking about adding another plane to my virtual hangar. I really want to get another jet airliner to add to my PMDG MD-11. First thing to say is I don't want to get the PMDG NGX. The reason being (and this may sound crazy) is that I don't want to get something so good that any other addon feels less enjoyable after getting used to it. I'll get it eventually, I just don't want to jump to the ultimate best addon yet :)

 

Anyway, I have a few thoughts, maybe you can guide me better:

 

1. Captain Sim aircraft, maybe 767. I'm kind of iffy though, I've read a lot of conflicting reviews of CS addons.

2. QualityWings 757. Good reviews but it has simplified systems, which I'm kind of put off by.

3. Level D 767 - great reviews and supposedly good systems modelling but VERY dated graphics

4. Leonardo Maddog 2010 - great reviews, complex systems, dated graphics and I've heard reports of bugs and non-existent customer support

5. CLS MD80 - good reviews, mid-level systems complexity, good graphics

6. FeelThere ejects v2 - unknown

 

Really my #1 concern is a good, useable virtual cockpit that has full functionality when compared with the 2D cockpit. System complexity is important too but it doesn't have to be extreme, that's why I am considering the QW 757. External visuals are a distant third place for me.

 

Thanks for any tips you might have :)

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Your reasoning on not getting the NGX is kinda confusing to me but whatever. I'd go with the Captain Sim 767. That will make all your other addons be alot more enjoyable.

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Your reasoning on not getting the NGX is kinda confusing to me but whatever. I'd go with the Captain Sim 767. That will make all your other addons be alot more enjoyable.

 

:LMAO:

 

lol, my theory is this. It's like buying a Chevy Malibu and a Lamborghini Aventador. Sure the Malibu is a nice enough car, but if you also own the Aventador it's probably not going to get driven very much. :P

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LevelD 767 is what I'm enjoying as my newest addition. Mind you, I already have the PMDG MD11, PMDG NGX, the QW 757, and the FeelThere E-Jets and ERJ v2. Still, despite the dated graphics, I really like the LVLD 767 systems fidelity, sounds, and feel...I'll be spending time with this one in addition to the others listed.

 

Alternatively, if you're leery of NGX spoilage, buy the iFly 737...the free Feature Pack is due any day and it flies nicely.

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:LMAO:

 

lol, my theory is this. It's like buying a Chevy Malibu and a Lamborghini Aventador. Sure the Malibu is a nice enough car, but if you also own the Aventador it's probably not going to get driven very much. :P

I guess I can see your point. But still the NGX is the best of the best, and flying her is a wonderfull experience that shouldnt be missed.

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LevelD 767 is what I'm enjoying as my newest addition. Mind you, I already have the PMDG MD11, PMDG NGX, the QW 757, and the FeelThere E-Jets and ERJ v2. Still, despite the dated graphics, I really like the LVLD 767 systems fidelity, sounds, and feel...I'll be spending time with this one in addition to the others listed.

 

Alternatively, if you're leery of NGX spoilage, buy the iFly 737...the free Feature Pack is due any day and it flies nicely.

 

Thanks for your input. I just watched this Youtube video of the Level D and I think I'm sold:

 

I guess I can see your point. But still the NGX is the best of the best, and flying her is a wonderfull experience that shouldnt be missed.

 

I'm sure it is, and if you noticed I said I WILL be getting the NGX, just not right at this moment :)

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If not the NGX I second the level d bird.

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Just get the levelD 767 with the VC texture update...

 

Ooo, this sounds nice! Where can that be found?

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Besides the NGX, my favorites are:

 

Leonardo MD-80 2010 (a little rough in some areas, but unmatched in others)

Level D 767

PMDG 747

PMDG JS4100

Flightsim Labs Concorde-X (very tough to learn)

Simcheck A300

 

Also, keep an eye out for the upcoming Milviz 737-200, and the Coolsky DC-9 for old school airliner flying.

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Molleh, the VC in that vid is the updated one. Go to the leveld forums and look for andrè's VC mod/update. It's there.

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Molly, I'd go with the LDS767 with the VC update as the others mentioned. I have the CaptSim 757 and FeelThere E-Jets, but not your other choices due to them being to simplified except for the Maddog of course, but between the CS 757 and E-Jets, the LDS 767 is the best of the choices in my opinion. I got the CS 757 during their annual Christmas sale for 9.99 and paid full price for the E-Jets, but I have probably less than 20 hours between the two of them just due to the fact that the LDS is a much better a/c and gets better FPS on my rig than the other two.

 

As far as your reasoning for not getting the NGX I can see your point. I have a nice Japanese car that I intended to use as a daily commuter car with good gas mileage, but I also own a nice German sports coupe, and to be honest, the German car gets most of the use despite getting horrible gas mileage, it makes the Japanese car feel like a hooptie and I cant drive it more than 2 days in a row, lol.

 

I'll tell you this as well. If you get the LDS or any of the other choices you mentioned and then get the NGX down the road, you might end up in the same situation and never return to those other choices and it will just be money wasted. The only reason I own the LDS767, PMDG 747, E-Jets and the other tubes in my sig was just because they were used as something to fly until the NGX came out. But, now that I have the NGX I cant bare to fly the other ones even though most of them are fine a/c. Just get the NGX and save your money :-)

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If you fancy a complex airliner which is a little bit different, why not try the A2A Boeing 377 with the COTS add on? - you will see that there are other things out there which are every bit as good as the PMDG 737 NG. Sure the PMDG bird is good, excellent in fact, but the 377 shows that it isn't alone at the top of the tree.

 

Incidentally, my car was built in 1960, when the Boeing Stratocruiser was still flying commercial passenger flights, and I drive that pretty much daily.

 

Al

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Something else to consider, the upcoming PMDG 777 and 747 version 2 will meet or exceed the NGX, s0 you could have a stable of "NGX" level airliners eventually.

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If you fancy a complex airliner which is a little bit different, why not try the A2A Boeing 377 with the COTS add on? - you will see that there are other things out there which are every bit as good as the PMDG 737 NG. Sure the PMDG bird is good, excellent in fact, but the 377 shows that it isn't alone at the top of the tree.

 

Incidentally, my car was built in 1960, when the Boeing Stratocruiser was still flying commercial passenger flights, and I drive that pretty much daily.

 

Al

 

I second that.

 

I bought it the other week (on Al's recommendation!) and have been absolutely delighted with it - it really is a stunning add-on in every respect.

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Thanks for your input. I just watched this Youtube video of the Level D and I think I'm sold

Oh yeah, Same here. Looks like candy. I need a good 767, I assume this is the best one?

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A third recommendation for the B377 with COTS... a very interesting airplane with feedback that gives you incentive to keep improving your performance - something that is missing in the NGX unless you incorporate additional addons.

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Your reasoning IS weird. Thats like saying Hey I won the lottery but I only want 10% of the winnings. Just get the damn thing. Dont live with regrets!

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First you say this...

 

First thing to say is I don't want to get the PMDG NGX.

 

Then you say this:

 

Really my #1 concern is a good, useable virtual cockpit that has full functionality when compared with the 2D cockpit.

 

Kind of makes me wonder. :smile:

 

But: if an NGX is a no-go now, for whatever weird reason :smile:, get a LevelD, of all the addons you counted, it's a very good one, only havinga bit dated graphics (VC), but 2D panel is very good and you can get Mcphat textures for external model which look :Shocked: !

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A third recommendation for the B377 with COTS... a very interesting airplane with feedback that gives you incentive to keep improving your performance - something that is missing in the NGX unless you incorporate additional addons.

And a fourth. In my mind the most (only?) entertaining airliner available for FSX today.

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I just got a refund on the LDS 767...I found it to be very hyped and oversold. The VC texture upgrade doesn't do much for it either truth be told. I for the life of me can't figure out what people see in it. I'm sure it was great for FS9 but it doesn't belong in FSX anymore.

 

The aircraft is from a one and done dev and needs to die off so something better can take its place.

 

I'm sure to catch hell for this opinion but too bad, it needed to be said. We need to stop acting like it's so special because frankly, at this point in time it is NOT. It's best days are behind it but they keep milking it anyway when it should be either steeply discounted or even freeware now...

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I for the life of me can't figure out what people see in it

 

Hello

Then buy the CS 767, you will understand then.

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I just got a refund on the LDS 767...I found it to be very hyped and oversold. The VC texture upgrade doesn't do much for it either truth be told. I for the life of me can't figure out what people see in it. I'm sure it was great for FS9 but it doesn't belong in FSX anymore.

 

The aircraft is from a one and done dev and needs to die off so something better can take its place.

 

I'm sure to catch hell for this opinion but too bad, it needed to be said. We need to stop acting like it's so special because frankly, at this point in time it is NOT. It's best days are behind it but they keep milking it anyway when it should be either steeply discounted or even freeware now...

 

The major plus point of it is the simulation of the Pegasus; you are right in saying that it is long in the tooth where most other things are concerned, but that systems simulation still makes it one of the better aircraft you can get for FSX if you value being able to simulate airliner operations to a high level of fidelity.

 

Al

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I just got a refund on the LDS 767...I found it to be very hyped and oversold.

 

Maybe, but we're specifically recommending this because the OP doesn't want NGX (I don't judge lol)

 

The NGX is lightyears ahead of the LevelD offering but for obvious reasons...

 

There's no better 767 than the LevelD in terms of all around performance/systems etc...

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