Respect is earned, always has been. It's the first tenet of leadership.

 

During my tours in the U.S. Army, I learned -and later taught- that one is always and without exception obligated to give full military courtesy to the rank and uniform. Respect, on the other hand, must always be earned.

 

On a practical level though, I also taught that one should accord any new superior the benefit of the doubt and assume that such respect was already earned, until proven otherwise by said superior's subsequent actions...

 

I will add also that I personally never had any fear of being fragged... :Peace:

Dighost: If you want to cover your bases (especially at a home improvement store) next time just ask if she would like a hand with that. If she does, I've never been ostracized for asking: that's when they usually reply with a "Thank You!" and a big smile.

Yes -- simply asking, "Need a hand with that?" without being (or appearing) pushy has never elicited anything other than either a polite "No thanks" or gratitude, in my experience. I'm 6'2" and often offer to lend a hand in supermarkets if a woman is struggling to reach a top shelf near me. Never been turned down yet.

 

Holding sprung doors open for anyone following behind you is basically no more than not being an a$$.

N4gix I would say I always gave a new superior the benefit of the doubt or maybe I should say I'd give them a chance to show what they're made of.

My father and two uncles served in the military.

They always said respect must be earned!!

The push buggy women are the worst!! I too get the same problem when I hold open a door for a women with a push buggy... She just walks on by without any eye-contact or acknowledgement for what I just did for her!

To make matters worse, When ever your out and about in any part of the world even in wide open spaces, there's always one who's there with her push buggy trying to mow you down with that buggy!!

Dont know if thats just bad luck or not, but It always seems to happen to me!?

Thanks for the tips! I know 99.999 percent of women are totally cool, it just miffed me that she wasn't only just taken aback-- but so rude about it. I'm all for "girl power" but sheesh!! :)

Women, are the reason GOD invented light switches!! :LMAO:

Just lift up every toilet seat you come across... small victories... fight the power!

I think you were just being a gentleman, unfortunately neither of these women were "Ladies". Personally I don't give a rats butt about Politically Correct. First of all I'm not some spineless image conscience politician or a cry baby liberal who thinks everyone should feel good about themselves all the time. Second, I don't believe in the present "Respect" baloney either. Respect is earned by deeds and promises kept. "Common Courtesy" seems to gone the way of the Dodo bird. Basically I'll treat you the way I would expect you to treat me.

 

Easily one of the greatest posts I have ever read here on Avsim. Thank you for your input.

 

Women, are the reason GOD invented light switches!! :LMAO:

 

:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:

 

That one just made my night... ROFL

 

Just lift up every toilet seat you come across... small victories... fight the power!

 

LOL

You know what is really irking...when your walking side by side with your wife and people will not move out of the way. I mean young kids, men, and even larger groups of four or five people. We are always constantly moving out of the way for them, well mostly my wife. In the city (New York), we constantly get elbows and arms shoved in our sides. No wonder people move out to the 'burbs.

N4gix I would say I always gave a new superior the benefit of the doubt or maybe I should say I'd give them a chance to show what they're made of.

 

Which pretty much sums up what I wrote in the second paragraph:

On a practical level though, I also taught that one should accord any new superior the benefit of the doubt and assume that such respect was already earned, until proven otherwise by said superior's subsequent actions...

You know what is really irking...when your walking side by side with your wife and people will not move out of the way. I mean young kids, men, and even larger groups of four or five people. We are always constantly moving out of the way for them, well mostly my wife. In the city (New York), we constantly get elbows and arms shoved in our sides. No wonder people move out to the 'burbs.

I'd say it's just an unfortunate fact of life that on crowded footpaths you have to do single file sometimes. Nobody has right of way in those circumstances. As you say, it's probably why people move to the 'burbs.

So I was at a home improvement store loading some stuff into my car, when a middle aged woman next to me starts to load several 25-40 pound bags of potting soil into the back of her car. I notice her struggle with the first bag, so like a gentleman I offer my assistance to load them for her. I might as well have asked if she wanted pull her top off and be groped because she stood back and sarcasticly huffs that she doesn't need a mans help! I didn't say what I was about to say... but jeez, sometimes I wonder if holding doors for women and helping them with heavy stuff is not politically correct any longer?? A few days ago I held a door open for a lady pushing her baby stroller and she breezes by like I was the doorman or something. As she walked off I did yell "your welcome princess", at which point she turns around and shoots me the evil eye. Not a thanks or nothing.

 

Sorry had to vent!! :)

 

It is just the attitude of people today. Some women are appreciative of gentlemen still. You just need to use your judgement to see who the 'feminists' are who will thumb their nose at you.

 

Progress always forgets old customs as 'progress' usually means that conservatism is evil and we need to 'update' to the 'modern era'! My vent!!