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Do I still buy TrackIR after the demise of Flight?

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If you turn off the "mirror" setting, you should be able to set different curves for the left and right sides. This may be useful for physical therapy with you having different ranges of motion on each side.

 

Talk to a therapist, of course, but it may be beneficial to start the "weak" side out more sensitive and gradually reduce it over time, forcing you to turn more and more to the "weak" side as your range of motion improves (if if improves, if course).

 

I'd be interested in hearing what your therapist thinks about TrackIR.

 

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Turn off the mirror? I will have to try that. I can turn my head more to the right and less to the left. I had twisted risers on a parachute jump many years ago. Spun me around like a top when the canopy deployed. No one to blame but myself, I packed the chute, never been the same since. Getting old is SO much fun!

I always knew you had to be twisted to be here... :lol: :P

Blackrat

 

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I'd be interested in hearing what your therapist thinks about TrackIR.

 

When I mentioned it last visit she said it would be a good idea, just be careful of repetitive motion injuries. I know how to deal with that with a mouse, but the TrackIR will be a bit different. She said the Veterans Administration wouldn't pay for the Track IR (darnit!) and said she was trying to get them to pay for a Wii for some patients.

 

I thought about turning Mirror off and adjusting the right side to be more sensitive, but I think leaving it mirrored would be better therapy. I'll probably have to make both sides more sensitive until I get used to the extra motion.

 

Right now my neck is a bit sore from a short flight. That, and I've got a bit of upset tummy. Last night the neck was ok, but the tummy problem was there. I don't think it's motion sickness, but it might be. I can get used to that.

 

For the medically inclined, here's the problem:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_Idiopathic_Skeletal_Hyperostosis

 

It's not obvious from the article, but there are wide flat bone spurs growing up and down from each vertabra, and when they touch they limit motion. There's some ankylosing spondylitis involved, but it's a minor problem compared to this. When it first started I set my monitor on a 4" box so I'd have to keep my head up, and I think it's helped. The DISH was just diagnosed recently (the xrays are pretty dramatic) and I just started therapy about 6 weeks ago. We'll beat this, one way or another.

 

And now, as soon as the aotd comes up, and if I don't already have it, I'm off for another flight! :D

 

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Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

That, and I've got a bit of upset tummy. Last night the neck was ok, but the tummy problem was there. I don't think it's motion sickness, but it might be.

 

Man I cannot even play a fps game, because I get motion sickness so easy and it gets so bad. For whatever reason, and I was really concerned about this when I got my first Track IR, it just does not bother me at all - thankfully. Flight sims and racing sims do not bother it, but a fps - forget it.

Don B

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Three flights, three hours flight time, and already I'm used to it. I had TrackiR paused and was trying to move my head to look in a different direction.

 

I changed the curves (starting with the default profile) to make it more responsive so I didn't have to turn my head so much. Worked out well. Too responsive for a normal person though. My neck isn't sore after this last flight.

 

My son came in and I sat him at the controls of the Maule in flight, put the hat on him, and told him to look around. At first he didn't understand that all he had to do was move his head because I hadn't told him. "Oh, so that's what the hat is for." Next time I'll revert to default profile and see how much better he likes it. He was impressed.

 

I'm gonna declare the tummy problem to be motion sickness, which is odd as I've never had problems with that, especially in a game. If you start to feel it, set the view and pause TrackIR for a while. It goes away.

 

Pretty cool, pretty cool. Glad I decided to buy it.

 

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Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

I'm gonna declare the tummy problem to be motion sickness, which is odd as I've never had problems with that, especially in a game. If you start to feel it, set the view and pause TrackIR for a while. It goes away.

 

Out of curiosity, what zoom are you using? If it's wide-angle (like the default 0.6 or even 0.8), try a narrower field of view like 1.0. The fish-eye distortion from a "pulled back" zoom may be contributing to the motion sickness. With TrackIR, you don't need as a wide a field of view to maintain good situational awareness.

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RoboRay! Keep up! I've posted a few places elsewhere that I'm running 1.5 zoom in Flight. :D That's one less than the max cockpit zoom.

 

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Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Oh, that's right... you look at the world through a soda-straw.

Hook - I have the same neck problem, but like Air1, mine is exactly the opposite of what you describe for yourself. I hesitated about making adjustments for a while and then went in and took the plunge. Just turn off mirror and adjust the curve up more steeply on the right side (for you), save the profile under a new name and make sure to assign that profile to the appropriate game/s. Make sure that that axis (yaw) is the only one you are adjusting by setting both options to that function by only having yaw (or whatever you are adjusting) checked and having the window below show that axis. Make sure that you set this up for each axis you may be adjusting. Once the adjustment is made, turn all axes back on and save. You can repeatedly go back and adjust that saved profile until you tweak it the way you want. I found that turning off roll (just save with it unchecked) took all the "tummy" problems out and it remains fully functional (in my mind). For all - if you want to see how much you like it, leave it turned off and try flying a session! It will drive you nuts trying to look around the cockpit and outside.

John Wingold

Got it installed yesterday took tweating to get the light ir device to work.

 

It should not take any tweaking so to speak to get the camera to work, the main thing to do first is to make sure it is centered properly. With the software open, view the three dots, they should be dead center in the camera view. Not off to one side or the other, or above or below the center line.

Also make sure you have the appropriate tracking device checked in the software, either the hat tracking or the trackclip pro tracking ( attaches to a headset).

Then, if you have any light in the background that may interfere with it, cause the camera to go bezerk or just stop working, you can increase the light filtering. I have a window to my left side, and in the mornings on a clear day the sunlight that gets through that window, even with blinds on it, can cause erratic behaviour. I increased my light filtering to around 185 and that seems to have made that much better for me.

 

Once the above is taken care of, then I recommend starting with a stock profile, like either the default, combat flight, or smooth - even trying each one, and seeing how it feels to you. Once you get one that feels best, then use it a bit, and if still not quite there then start adjusting and save as a new profile with a custom name - in mycase, I have mine saved as "Flight".

Don B

It should not take any tweaking so to speak to get the camera to work, the main thing to do first is to make sure it is centered properly. With the software open, view the three dots, they should be dead center in the camera view. Not off to one side or the other, or above or below the center line.

 

Had to disable digital driver enforcement on Windows 7 and Modify Administrator privileges so the computer could recognize the device. Got that fixed then I thew on my 3d glasses for acer monitor and hat on with the lights working as wow now low and slow is new level

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I just flew for an hour and a half with no motion sickness problems.

 

I flew from Hilo to get the aerocache, then under the bridge that's up the river a bit (one of the 4 original aerocaches are there), then past the church and between the two buildings way off to the left, then back to land at Hilo. I did this in each of the cockpit aircraft I had, as previously I'd only used TrackIR in the Maule. Afterwards I flew the Stearman up to Upolu, with a detour up the Waipo Valley.

 

The 1.5 zoom works in every aircraft but the Stearman, which puts you way too close to the instrument panel. But at least with TrackIR I can glance at all the instruments without problems. I tried leaning forward to set the center point so that it would put my eyepoint back a bit, but it wasn't without problems.

 

If you lean forward to look at the instruments, for example, the centering seems off when you return to a normal posture. You don't have to recenter to get it back where it should be, just move your head to where the center should be and it will reset on its own. I normally center the view, then tilt my head up a bit and recenter, so that when I'm at normal posture I'm looking down a bit and can see more of the instruments. I may need to adjust the camera config file so that it looks down just a bit so that centering will put me exactly where I want to look.

 

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Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

Ok so this is probably a dumb question.

I am flying with the default zoom, whatever that is.

 

Now when I load up say a job in Flight , I move back in my chair when I get in the cockpit, and I recenter my Track IR there. This allows me to fly from a further back position, plus has the advantage of moving the cockpit closer when I move forward some. Seems to work pretty well for me.

 

Now I assume changing the zoom , does more than this? It would move not only the cockpit, but the scenery closer as well?

 

Presuming that would be the case, I wonder which method might work better - what do some of you Track IR users do, do you change the zoom or kind of do what I do and work with the default?

Oh heck, I guess I could just get in there and try different zooms to see for myself, but I like hearing what others have found works better for them.

Don B

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