A/ Yes

B/ Either way: you can start the upgrade immediately or create a DVD/USB-stick and do the upgrade whenever you want

 

 

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A/ Yes

B/ Either way: you can start the upgrade immediately or create a DVD/USB-stick and do the upgrade whenever you want

 

 

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Thanks for the quick response Maarten - I may just give it a try.

 

Dave

There is no full vs. upgrade version this time, just one version that costs $40. It allows you to make a USB drive or a DVD with the installer on it though and you can boot from that to do a clean install. I did an in-place upgrade initially, but had issues, so I reformatted clean.

 

So if I understood correctly the Windows 8 they sold digitially at 40$ can be installed even without Seven being installed first ?

 

I'm quite interested in Windows 8, not much for the interface and all, but boot time is just so much better as I had tested on my older laptop it was just cuting boot time by about half.

 

But most importantly as I understood it is much better on the part of being able to use different speech recognition languages. So using this version, I should be able to use FS2Crew with voice control instead of button control, I know there is the workaround for Seven and Vista described by FS2Crew but it just does not work as nicely as I would and for example doing it while windows has been activated make the change but then you just can't get updates automatically.

I booted from the CD (Sorry DVD,) deleted all the hard-drive partitions and installed from scratch,but I had

problems in FSX with disapearing Saitek Hardware in Prepar3d and FSX.

I went back to Windows 7,got everything working perfectly, then ran the Windows 8 inplace upgrade which seems to have solved all the saitek problems.

Today I tried win8 in asus zen ultrabook.Well I'll stay in win7 for sure!!

I upgraded to windows 8. Windows 8 works great, everything seems faster, BUT I had to completely reinstall FSX. Never did figure out what happend. I guess between Ezdok, Trackir, soundstream, etc something caused FSX to crash on startup. So I did a complete reistall and all is ok now. Only wasted one day doing this but i needed a cleanup anyway.

 

Now one thing I noticed is the "Dreaded Cursor FPS lag" is no longer present with windows 8 on my setup. Has anyone else noticed this who have upgraded? I am so happy this is gone.

 

Thomas Jones

I'll give it a bit more time, I'm not a big fan of testing recently released software, particularly when it comes from Microsoft.

Now one thing I noticed is the "Dreaded Cursor FPS lag" is no longer present with windows 8 on my setup. Has anyone else noticed this who have upgraded? I am so happy this is gone.

 

That's not really possible - the issue that causes that is a core FSX engine issue, not something with the OS. It's caused by the engine having to do a bunch of complicated math to determine where in the 3D scene the 2D pointer is pointing at. Most game engines implement the cursor as an object in the 3D world to eliminate this - ACES was going to do it for FSX SP3, but we know what happened before they could...

 

FYI, everyone, I'm back on Win7 now - I honestly don't think the driver support is quite there yet on Win8. I was getting sound stuttering, long pauses upwards of 30 seconds out of nowhere while in the sim after some more testing etc. That's the caveat I was mentioning - unless you're positive there are good drivers for your hardware, I'd wait a bit at least before giving it a try. My system's older now and several major components (motherboard chipset, sound card, wifi card, most of my USB peripherals etc) don't have true Win8 drivers yet.

 

Ryan that is BS. If by now Microsoft still doesn't realize that people hate the Metro crap then they're in really bad shape. I would not buy a $5 app for a problem that Microsoft is ignoring to fix. They could AT LEAST make like an option in the system settings to revert back to the old style start menu, but they're not.

 

I agree MS should have made Metro/Modern UI optional. All I was trying to do was provide people who wanted the new OS's benefits without the major detriment (the UI) an easy way to do it.

Actually the start menu thingie is a mindset obstacle.

It takes a bit of getting used to,but a few days sorts it out.

Actually the start menu thingie is a mindset obstacle.

It takes a bit of getting used to,but a few days sorts it out.

 

I didn't like it after I started installing a lot of programs - it just sorta throws everything into that one screen in a haphazard way. If you right click and goes to "All apps" at the bottom or whatever it's called, it shows a screen akin to the structure of what would be the "All Programs" group in the Win7 Start Menu, but it omits subfolders - so for instance the PMDG Simulations entry just has everything under that one heading, there aren't subheadings for the different aircraft like there are in Win7's Start Menu.

$40 is only for the upgrade... ick... I always get the full version... Newegg's got the Pro for $140 I believe (oem)

Win 8 great so far, and no issues with any addons what so ever.

I'm using this currently to deal with the UI issues - http://www.stardock....roducts/start8/ - it hides/disables the Modern UI stuff and basically makes it work like an improved version of Win7. I tried to use the Start Screen thing but I was already pretty annoyed with it after a few days, so I bought this. Awesome little app for $5.

 

Nice! Thanks for the link. Nice to have the Start Menu back!

There's one for free

http://lifehacker.com/5955089/how-to-bring-back-the-start-menu-in-windows-8

I was getting sound stuttering, long pauses upwards of 30 seconds out of nowhere while in the sim after some more testing etc.

Win 7 drivers should work fine. Did you try that? I used Win XP 64-bit drivers on Vista for years before drivers were finally released for some of my hardware. They worked fine (only requirement was that they were signed, which they were).

 

Less changes "behind the scenes" in Windows than people think. Things are added, but the existing is rarely changed as it would break more than just 3rd party software - Microsoft are not going to re-write all their code for one change in the core somewhere. You read all the time "this function is deprecated". Rarely will you read "this function doesn't exist anymore". :wink:

 

Best regards,

Robin.