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Best Heavy--lite

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Looking for heavy (jet or prop) with:

reasonable price, lite systems, basic autopilot/fmc representation(if at all), no additional failure modelling

but with;

good flight dynamics, representation of inertia, engine spool up,

good main instrument refresh rate (more realair than CLS/ Captain Sim)

good looking (outside and in cockpit...no interest in cabin)

good sounding

 

Thanks TIM

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I think the PMDG JS41 would be good for you - its a nice plane with a relatively light learning curve for an airline aircraft. Flies very well and has a beautiful fully functional VC. The FMS is very good too and has almost all the feature of the real aircraft.

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I´d like to suggest the QualityWings 757, it is beautifully modeled inside and out and has very good flight dynamics and relatively light (but working!) system modeling. The FMC is easy to set up and with a little pratice, you are flying within minutes!

A little lighter but still beautiful to look at, is CLS´s MD-80. The flight characteristics are believable and its performance, fps-wise, is very good! Autopilot is very basic and it uses the default MSFS GPS to follow a flightplan.

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QW 757

QW RJ

 

Both of the above perform beautiful, they look great, and you don't have to spend 30 minutes getting ready to put your seat belt on. They are still semi-complex, and I fly them just as much as my NGX and MD-11 by PMDG. I also second the JS4100 by PMDG...while she is not the most advanced systems wise, I find that it is between Lite and Complex, with PLENTY to keep you busy. All she has in advanced Autopilot is LNAV. It will help you with descent points, but will not do it for you, and does not have an autothrottle. Combine the JS4100 with FS2Crew and you will be having fun for hours on end.

 

I also recommend the CoolSky DC-9. She is old school, no FMS, but VOR. Very fun to fly, and handles great. The support is top notch, and when I like it simple she is my go to bird.

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Another for the QW RJ. FMC is light but does the job well enough. Looks great as well, and is on Flight1 so can get your money back if you don't like it.

 

G

 

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If You want an heavy plane with light systems, QW757 is the way to go. Outstanding audio quality, nice power to weight ratio, light on frames, nice documentation, joyful to fly by hand. It was my favorite tubeliner for a long time.

 

Actually, Boeing 757 is 'medium' category (heavy is from 136.000 kg MTOW upwards), but pretty close to 'heavy' wake turbulence category.

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+1 for the QW 757! It's just an awesome plane.

I guess that's the best one in the "non-complex" or "not too complex" category.

Their Avro is good, too, but it's abit more advanced.

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I´d like to suggest the QualityWings 757, it is beautifully modeled inside and out and has very good flight dynamics and relatively light (but working!) system modeling. The FMC is easy to set up and with a little pratice, you are flying within minutes!

A little lighter but still beautiful to look at, is CLS´s MD-80. The flight characteristics are believable and its performance, fps-wise, is very good! Autopilot is very basic and it uses the default MSFS GPS to follow a flightplan.

 

The Flight1/CoolSky Super MD80 is ultra-easy on performance--they saved a little by not having the crispest graphics in the VC, but it's plenty fine and night lighting is good. It has a fully functional FMS too. The QW757 is fabulous, fairly easy on performance, and the -200 is great for TO out of shorter runways like KJAC. Since I have older hardware now these are perfect--i.e., my system can handle these quite well ;o)

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The Flight1/CoolSky Super MD80 is ultra-easy on performance--they saved a little by not having the crispest graphics in the VC

I agree with you, and the second part 's the main reason why I hardly ever use the Flight1 Super80 anymore is that the VC looks strange, since lots of switches aren't really modelled in 3D. I wouldn't care for it that much, if it were only some of the switches on the overhead panel, but having 2D knobs on the VC AP panel, is a bit sad. I did enjoy it some years ago, though, and the exterior model and the outside texturing is still amazing to me.

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I agree with you, and the second part 's the main reason why I hardly ever use the Flight1 Super80 anymore is that the VC looks strange, since lots of switches aren't really modelled in 3D. I wouldn't care for it that much, if it were only some of the switches on the overhead panel, but having 2D knobs on the VC AP panel, is a bit sad. I did enjoy it some years ago, though, and the exterior model and the outside texturing is still amazing to me.

 

Well, it is the best combo of features & complexity w/ very, very low impact (compared to the NGX, or even the QW757), so it's good for folks w/ older hardware. Night flying helps soften it's weaknesses ;o)

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Just to add: the QW Avro can be switched to "lite" mode as well. Another plus id think you like is that it has 4 jets (like a heavy) but is designed for shorter hops. Their 757 fits your requirement as well I believe.

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Just to add: the QW Avro can be switched to "lite" mode as well. Another plus id think you like is that it has 4 jets (like a heavy) but is designed for shorter hops. Their 757 fits your requirement as well I believe.

 

It also has excellent short field performance, if you are light then it only needs about 2500 feet of runway...

 

G

 

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Another QW757 and QW RJ fan.

 

If you like CLS, their MD-80 series is pretty nice.

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Yet you're not going to actually offer a suggestion... anyway...

 

CLS have a DC-10 and a 747-200. Not sure what they're like, but the pics look ok. I have their MD-82, which isn't bad for a-bash-about-the-sky plane. They also have an A-330, but something just doesn't look right, which is shame because there aren't many options with that popular liner. I know CLS isn't really on your radar, which does probably only leave the QW 757 - the 'heavy' wake turbulence category is as close as you'll get to heavy.

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None of the alternatives listed in this thread are actual heavy airplanes.

Maybe that is, because the OP excluded most of what there is in his first post.

For example the CLS 767, which is very beautifilly modelled, seems to be overpowered to me, and the trim seems a bit strange. Their 747 doesn't really have a nice VC, besides they are redoing it at the moment.

CS seem to have a problem with FDE, at least with some planes, and I'm not a friend of their sales policy (except maybe the 10$ sales), so I wouldn't like to recommend those. And they only have two planes (707, 767) that would fit into the "heavy category" (or three, if the 757 counts, but then again the QW wins for me).

As for the freeware heavies, the problem is that they don't have a FMC at all, though it's possible to fit in either the Honeywell FMC or one of Ernie Alston's ISG FMCs. In this case you could go for Thomas Ruth's aircraft and the POSKY 747 and T7.

 

Regards,

Flo

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I LOVE QW757. Right now I'm debating whether to buy the QW 146, or the NGX series....I'm only interested in the 600/700 though, so that will be an expensive purchase.

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I LOVE QW757. Right now I'm debating whether to buy the QW 146, or the NGX series....I'm only interested in the 600/700 though, so that will be an expensive purchase.

 

Both are great, the FMC in the QW RJ is quite light, but works. The NGX is just fantastic though, given the choice I would go for the NGX first. Unless you really want the STOL ability of the RJ.

 

G

 

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None of the alternatives listed in this thread are actual heavy airplanes.

 

Actually the 757 was originally classified as a heavy, until the FAA changed the designation a few years ago. However if you ever get hit with a 757 wake you will think 'heavy' is a huge understatement :-)

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