Especially if he claimed to be the CEO of a virtual airline!!

Why would you designate virtual airline CEOs as more dangerous than other passengers?

and you risk the possibility of being laughed at (behind your back though)

So what?

That's what we learn our children today:"do not ask because you could be laughed off!" That's a bs. Someone thinks my question is funny? He can laugh all day, I dont give a fu*k.

EU Commission regulation No 859/2008 reads:

 

OPS 1.100

Admission to flight deck

(a) An operator must ensure that no person, other than a flight crew member assigned to a flight, is admitted to, or carried in, the flight deck unless that person is:

 

1. an operating crew member;

2. a representative of the Authority responsible for certification, licensing or inspection if this is required for the performance of his/her official duties; or

3. permitted by, and carried in accordance with instructions contained in the Operations Manual.

( B) The commander shall ensure that:

 

 2. all persons carried on the flight deck are made familiar with the relevant safety procedures.

 

© The final decision regarding the admission to the flight deck shall be the responsibility of the commander.

On the wider point, Why should a captain take an unnecessary risk by admitting an unknown rubber-necker to his flight deck?

EU Commission regulation No 859/2008 reads:

 

 

 

On the wider point, Why should a captain take an unnecessary risk by admitting an unknown rubber-necker to his flight deck?

I don't know, maybe because they are not overly paranoid and enjoy members of the public taking a little interest in what goes on up front.

I don't know, maybe because they are not overly paranoid and enjoy members of the public taking a little interest in what goes on up front.

It's amazing how the consequences of access to a cockpit in flight get's easily forgotten about by the Utopians among us...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

It's amazing how all this get's easily forgotten about by the Utopians among us...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

Sorry after your first post I can't take you seriously.... Anyway I am talking about flight deck visits after landing.

It's amazing how all this get's easily forgotten about by the Utopians among us...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

 

There is no danger whatsoever for the safety of flight to let someone visit the cockpit before/after the landing at the gate at least, I didn't notice OP specifically saying that he wanted to visit in flight?

 

A couple of years ago I got to visit cockpit of Australian Airlines A320 before the flight, also a year or so before that I visited Finnair B757's cockpit after the flight, simply asked from flight attendant if that would be possible.

 

Mainly US airlines seem to be overly paranoid, as you are thankfully flying with BA & QF which are good non US airlines you should have pretty good chances of visiting the cockpit before leaving the gate or after the landing.

 

But sure in flight visit would prove to be difficult with pretty much all airlines nowadays and would require you to either know some crew member very well or could maybe be possible through some special arrangement...

I got the jumpseat for preflight, takeoff, and full ascent phase on an icelandair flight from keflavik to london in 2004. Went back to my seat (got bumped to first class too!) to get fed and watered. would have been cool to see out the flight but i had other duties on board (I was transporting a stretcher bound mate after a car crash). I managed to chat up the pilot pre flight as we were put on to the flight 45 minutes earlier than other pax due to the medical transport needs. Pilot came back to chat to us and I asked for the jump seat and he said no probs. It's radically different being in the front end for takeoff......

I don't know, maybe because they are not overly paranoid and enjoy members of the public taking a little interest in what goes on up front.

 

So they should take an unnecessary risk to let passengers rubber-neck?

o they should take an unnecessary risk to let passengers rubber-neck?

 

It's cpt's responsibility and decision, if he does not have problem with passenger on jumpseat, neither do I.

 

So they should take an unnecessary risk to let passengers rubber-neck?

What on earth are you talking about? It is entirely up to the captain to decide if a child or curious paying customer wants to take a peek of the flight deck whilst the aircraft is on the ground and secure. It happens all the time and hopefully will continue to happen. Get over it

Why would you designate virtual airline CEOs as more dangerous than other passengers?

 

 

 

Maybe because admitting it in public marks you out as a sad, delusional misfit with a tenuous grip on reality?

 

B)

 

In flight, I don't want anyone on the flight deck who shouldn't be there. 

So they should take an unnecessary risk to let passengers rubber-neck?

 

What a bag of poo,

 

by your logic,The same would be true of all transport modalities. If I was aboard a passenger ferry, asking to visit the bridge, as I'm an avid sailor, or the engine room, as an engineering and mechanics enthusiast. As an aviation enthusiast, I like to see the object of my enthusiasm up close and in action. Th reason why so many people enjoy airshows. In this community (avsim) this will be the dream chance to get to see how the front end operates....

 

As a civics and politics enthusiast is it wrong for me to take a tour of the capitol or the white house, or any other governmental building.

 

This argiment could be stretched across a whole bucket of examples....

allio

Maybe because admitting it in public marks you out as a sad, delusional misfit with a tenuous grip on reality?

 

B)

 

In flight, I don't want anyone on the flight deck who shouldn't be there. 

Aren't we all in FS community? or any other virtual communities for that matter...

 

I mean, we are virtual pilots, flying virtual aircraft for virtual airline in virtual world by virtual weather, talking to virtual ATC, and virtual airlines enforce virtual rules in order to save virtual fuel and cut down virtual costs.. Cannot see "reality" nowhere near.

 

The fact is you are not in charge so if cpt let someone to enter cockpit in flight, you can do nothing about that (Well, you can actually scream and accuse other passengers as terrorists - that's not uncommon behavior in us as I know, but maybe I'm wrong). 

It's amazing how the consequences of access to a cockpit in flight get's easily forgotten about by the Utopians among us...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

 

In how many of those did the hijackers get access to the flight deck by asking the pilot nicely?

It's amazing how the consequences of access to a cockpit in flight get's easily forgotten about by the Utopians among us...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

 

 

Of the thousands and thousands of flights operated daily... I'd say that's not too bad. I'd imagine more dentists are attacked by their patients daily, than airliners are hijacked in a year.