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FS9 is STILL the #1 flight simulator for 'heavy' operations!

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I'm just paused in flight a half hour departed from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and headed for Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada.

 

FS9 (of course, in my personal opinion...) STILL gives the best visual rendering of colors and scenery output that you do see operating in the real-world FL's.  Because FS9 will never exhaust its 32 bit VAS limit, you know that you will touch down, even 12 continuous hours flight, in real time. No FSX'ish CTD or OOM in this simulator! This fact alone would never have me delete it off of my hard drive, or not fire it up, for 'heavy' operations. It is simply too good at what it does...

 

FS9 is not old, will never be old, and again, gives the user a fantastic commercial/heavy user session, when loaded up with all the great, and mature 3rd party support programs out there for it.  You'd think that there would be no new visual tricks, I could see in using it...but that is not true.  Since having put a GTX 680 card into my system, and with some mod'ed settings to nVidia Inspector putting Anisotropic settings to 16 (you don't have in-app anisotropic options, but can drive your card with this setting via N.I.) and SG at 4x, it appears to be a whole new sim, yet again. The visuals are real-world for any flight level operation that I have ever seen. The colors are more life-like than anything you can ever get in FSX. It simply is the truth in that. FSX's color still, no matter what you do, has that cartoonish pastel quality to it.  FS9 with 3rd party scenery packages looks the part of being viewed at FL180 and up.  It's too bad that water depictions are not up to the same 'snuff'' as the land tiles, but it is what it is.  FSX will always be the clear winner for water operations and viewing.  So...back into the cockpit of the WestJet  737...I have to get there on-time.  Some good seafood is waiting for us out of the Bay of Fundy!

 

Bottom line, if you own FS9, FSX, and also Xplane (x)....use 'em!  Keep using them for each strength segment they shine at. If you are a true sim-head, there should be no user-camps...just fire up the sim that best emulates the flight or visuals you wish in your session. My two..ok,ok...ten cents... 

 

Cheers!

 

Ses

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Don't be discouraged by the lack of responses. Most of, if not all, people in this sub forum are pleased with your thoughts.

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I have recently got back into fs9 after a 5 year break. I keep thinking about upgrading to fsx but with addons for fs9 I can make It look visually attractive enough whilst maintaining a constant smooth fps and no worries about crashing. Most of the payware still appeals to me both systems and visual wise (my favourite heavy Is the 747 and pmdg did a great job of that for fs9) so at least until the v2 comes out I will not be spending the best part of a thousand pounds just to play fsx.

 

Don't get me wrong, I will likely have fsx eventually but fs9 is so simple and free of issues for the casual ish user with little free time to tweak and build that I cannot feel the need to upgrade.

 

Fs9 will always be the most stable and functional version to me.

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"FS9 is Still the #1 Flight Simulator for "Heavy" Operations!"

 

I have to agree.  Being a 250-pound kind of guy, I find FS9 gives me that smooth, relaxing sensation.  FSX, on the other hand, makes me queasy and woozy with a harsh and bitter aftertaste.

 

......so......I highly recommend FS9 - Choice of us "heavies".

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Although I use FSX 90% of the time, I do still own and love FS9 and use it for a couple of airplanes that never made it to FSX.

 

But, to be balanced, and look at the other side.... when flying FS9, I find myself really missing these :-

 

- AccuFeel... (movement, sounds, immersion)

 

- OPUS.... (mainly for the weather, but also the dynamic head movements, that are soooo immersive, especially with track IR)

 

- Aircraft: NGX, AXE, and now Q400.

 

.......there are certainly perfectly good scenery options for FS9; I would say at least as good as FSX, and I agree about FS9s stability, which is 50,000 times better than FSX (or P3D which CTDs constantly for me!).

 

But boy, do I miss AccuFeel and OPUS in FS9. :(

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I agree.  FS9 is incredible when flying heavies.  100% ai aircrafts at Barajas and other major hubs and waiting in line for take off is really something.  Same thing with arrivals.  All this with silky smooth fps.

I even find myself using FS9 now for vfr with the default Cessna Skyline.

 

I also have FSX with REX, UT2, GEX, UTX, etc and I rarely touch it anymore.  I don't get crashes and ctd's on FSX.  My installation is stable.  I've managed to find the settings that give me good results because I want the Just Flight L-1011, but everytime I fire up FS9, I no longer feel the need to go back to FSX.

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I'm just paused in flight a half hour departed from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and headed for Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada.

 

FS9 (of course, in my personal opinion...) STILL gives the best visual rendering of colors and scenery output that you do see operating in the real-world FL's.  Because FS9 will never exhaust its 32 bit VAS limit, you know that you will touch down, even 12 continuous hours flight, in real time. No FSX'ish CTD or OOM in this simulator! This fact alone would never have me delete it off of my hard drive, or not fire it up, for 'heavy' operations. It is simply too good at what it does...

 

FS9 is not old, will never be old, and again, gives the user a fantastic commercial/heavy user session, when loaded up with all the great, and mature 3rd party support programs out there for it.  You'd think that there would be no new visual tricks, I could see in using it...but that is not true.  Since having put a GTX 680 card into my system, and with some mod'ed settings to nVidia Inspector putting Anisotropic settings to 16 (you don't have in-app anisotropic options, but can drive your card with this setting via N.I.) and SG at 4x, it appears to be a whole new sim, yet again. The visuals are real-world for any flight level operation that I have ever seen. The colors are more life-like than anything you can ever get in FSX. It simply is the truth in that. FSX's color still, no matter what you do, has that cartoonish pastel quality to it.  FS9 with 3rd party scenery packages looks the part of being viewed at FL180 and up.  It's too bad that water depictions are not up to the same 'snuff'' as the land tiles, but it is what it is.  FSX will always be the clear winner for water operations and viewing.  So...back into the cockpit of the WestJet  737...I have to get there on-time.  Some good seafood is waiting for us out of the Bay of Fundy!

 

Bottom line, if you own FS9, FSX, and also Xplane (x)....use 'em!  Keep using them for each strength segment they shine at. If you are a true sim-head, there should be no user-camps...just fire up the sim that best emulates the flight or visuals you wish in your session. My two..ok,ok...ten cents... 

 

Cheers!

 

Ses

 

 

The very reason I still use FS9.  I'm a big airliner simmer.  FS9.75 is not that far from FSX.  It's great to help people today discover how to set it up right with ENB and various add-ons to bring the best out of the sim. 

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I'm also using FS9 only because I use the Posky/PSS Merge 777-200 as my daily driver. However, once the PMDG 777 becomes available, I'm sure that I'll be reinstalling FSX! :)

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At the moment in my opinion fs9 is the best flight simulator with all addons that are avalible. My FSX cd´s are in the shelf but I will never use them again. I am hoping that Prepar3d will put fsx up to a new level in the future, then maybe I will buy there sim. 

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FS9.75! We up to that are we? Is that with sweetfx?

 

Maybe if we had some HD terrain to replace the default, we could go to 9.8. :)

Here's what you need:

 

1. Flight1's Ground Environment Pro

2. ENB

3. Rex Environment Textures (brightest sky texture with ENB)

4. Zinertech's Water

5. Zinertech's Airport Environment

 

6. SweetFX in you can get it to run with ENB.

 

I found an add-on that updated the trees in FS9 that really helps but you have to be careful to get the right package.

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Here's what you need:

 

1. Flight1's Ground Environment Pro

2. ENB

3. Rex Environment Textures (brightest sky texture with ENB)

4. Zinertech's Water

5. Zinertech's Airport Environment

 

6. SweetFX in you can get it to run with ENB.

 

I found an add-on that updated the trees in FS9 that really helps but you have to be careful to get the right package.

Dillon, I have always felt that FS9's water is in the suck-fest zone. Everything else is most excellent for the year it was coded.  Does buying Zinertech's Water 'take care of business visually' for lakes, streams, ocean bodies?  I mean, does it bring it up to some sort of FSX'ish, or XP10 levels?

 

If so, I'd get it.  I'll wait on a detailed comment from you.  As I stated in my O.P., I will never, no matter how many years go by, delete my installation of FS9.  There is simply no compelling reason to.  I have just purchased X-Plane v10, and in fact, it just 'landed' on my doorstep, my wife so tells me, lol.  I have been enjoying immensely that product's demo, and will welcome the full version into the fold...but FS9, is a classic, is a winner, and it can put a smooth flying plane into the virtual sky on practically ANYBODY's system. You have to love that fact!  We all do.....(large grin).

 

Please get back to me, a detailed A/B comparison of FS9 with Zinertech's Water product, if you could.  That would be the last 'unfinished business' I still have with FS9.....

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Mitch

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I'll chip in, having installed every water mod ever created, starting with Flight Environment way back:

Others may come close, or in some circumstances even match it; but Zinertech Water is still the one.

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I have a problem with REX water textures. They seem to end at about 100nm from my position and the texture tiles begin to border onto default tiles. I ticked extended terrain textures but at FL380 i could still see the low-res default textures in the distance. The contrast is unbearable.

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I'll chip in, having installed every water mod ever created, starting with Flight Environment way back:

Others may come close, or in some circumstances even match it; but Zinertech Water is still the one.

WingZ...can you give me your reason, why visually, you find Z.W. appealing?  Use please, regular non-3rd party FS9 water textures as your base comparison. What does Z.W. do for water visuals, from lift off, to the FL's? 

Thanks

 

Mitch  

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Dillon, I have always felt that FS9's water is in the suck-fest zone. Everything else is most excellent for the year it was coded.  Does buying Zinertech's Water 'take care of business visually' for lakes, streams, ocean bodies?  I mean, does it bring it up to some sort of FSX'ish, or XP10 levels?

 

If so, I'd get it.  I'll wait on a detailed comment from you.  As I stated in my O.P., I will never, no matter how many years go by, delete my installation of FS9.  There is simply no compelling reason to.  I have just purchased X-Plane v10, and in fact, it just 'landed' on my doorstep, my wife so tells me, lol.  I have been enjoying immensely that product's demo, and will welcome the full version into the fold...but FS9, is a classic, is a winner, and it can put a smooth flying plane into the virtual sky on practically ANYBODY's system. You have to love that fact!  We all do.....(large grin).

 

Please get back to me, a detailed A/B comparison of FS9 with Zinertech's Water product, if you could.  That would be the last 'unfinished business' I still have with FS9.....

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Mitch

 

 

Mitch the best way I can describe Zinertech's Water texture is FSX water without the reflections.  I've played around with different water textures (REX to name one) and nothing comes close to what Zinertech gives you in FS9.  You have to see it in the sim to know what I'm talking about.  Here's an old pic I like to use to show it's cool effect:

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5. Zinertech's Airport Environment

 

 

 

Wow!  Just took a look at it on simmarket.  The buildings look fantastic, especially at night.  I will be getting this.  Thanks Dillon.

 

As for Zinertek water.. I have to agree.  It's way better than default and I much prefer it over REX water. 

FS9 water will pulsate when set to max, but Zinertek shows minimal pulsation compared to REX.  The reflections on REX water drives me nuts. Zinertek all the way!

H2O water looks pretty interesting.  I may give that one a shot too.

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I have used FS9 for a long time and no matter what addons came for FSX I always used to stick up with fs9.. However what changed my mind was the ground texture quality.It was so low that it looked like garbage while flying at low altitudes and I never used to realize that before unless I flew for real and watched Realworldflying videos on youtube..

However with Ultimate terrain addons and some special sky effects with ENB it really looked gorgeous..

For me ground details matter as much ! On the other hand fsx has a decent ground details BUT far from reality(unless you use addons limted to USA/EUR) on some areas like asia it looks very poor.. Even if you fly at 6000 feet with clear weather you can see copy/pasted textures that looks very ugly .

Now most of the addons like AXE,FSL,NGX are opted for FSX only - Airsimmer  Advance is (X_X) . This community was claiming a realistic bus for FS9 but at the end it did not worked out at all.. Not to repeat that wooff~

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Although I use FSX 90% of the time, I do still own and love FS9 and use it for a couple of airplanes that never made it to FSX.

But, to be balanced, and look at the other side.... when flying FS9, I find myself really missing these :-

- AccuFeel... (movement, sounds, immersion)

- OPUS.... (mainly for the weather, but also the dynamic head movements, that are soooo immersive, especially with track IR)

- Aircraft: NGX, AXE, and now Q400.

.......there are certainly perfectly good scenery options for FS9; I would say at least as good as FSX, and I agree about FS9s stability, which is 50,000 times better than FSX (or P3D which CTDs constantly for me!).

But boy, do I miss AccuFeel and OPUS in FS9. :(

If those were available in FS9! I would downgrade!

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I am still wondering with all this enthusiasm and preference, does the market share really that small and the chasm is big enough to make the devs stop supporting fs9? I see more and more similar threads regarding fs9 positivity emerging on this forum

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Mitch the best way I can describe Zinertech's Water texture is FSX water without the reflections.  I've played around with different water textures (REX to name one) and nothing comes close to what Zinertech gives you in FS9.  You have to see it in the sim to know what I'm talking about.  Here's an old pic I like to use to show it's cool effect:

THAT'S FS9?!?!?!?   Wow...I'm certainly going to look into this.  Thanks for the pic, Dillon

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Well, I just bought:

 

Zinertech's Advanced Water

Zinertech's Airport Environment

 

Both programs came to 23 Euros

 

Now..to go for a flight and see what this is all about.  :)

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Post Edit, okee-dokee, the advanced water program did the trick. It finished off the look! Good stuff, and inexpensive to buy.  I'll have to see more default airports and their being spruced up by the environment program....to make a comment.

 

Mitch

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