I know this is a bit of an admission, but I have never learnt how to do an ILS landing. I fly all my landings manually, as airline pilots are required to do also. It's my understanding that only a very small percentage of pilots land using ILS.

all percentage of pilots land using ILS.

 

They better know how when conditions are below minimums. It is EXTREMELY important ATP pilots know how to use instrument approaches and it is very common that conditions require such! But its also true one needs to know how to "handle" an aircraft and that doesn't come from reading books or someone telling you how on a forum. It is derived from PRACTICE!

This topics reminds me of parents who buy their kids a Ferrari for a 1st car when they haven't even learned to drive yet. And get angry at people for pointing out how you should learn the basics first in something more simple and slower. Most pilots never use an ILS? Never landed a plane manually? Get mad when pointing out learning to read charts is important? The FS community has really taken a nose dive.

They better know how when conditions are below minimums.

 

Hi Rendi, of course... as I understand things, pilots are required to perform a minimum number of ILS landings to maintain 'familiarity' but essentially as a norm, the majority of landings are manual.

Majority are automatic until stable on the iis then ap is disconnected. You really never do it that way? You relies the work load you give yourself, especially in the sim where you do radios, nav, flying, restrictions all yourself! Then throw in some low vis.....

 

I still can't believe someone said only learn the 737 if that's all you are going to fly. Simply amazing answer.

I think some airlines require an automatic approach down to minimums if instrument approaches are available.

I didn't say that I don't know how to land manually. I only asked how to do a NDB approach because I always do a ILS approach. There is no VOR frequency and course of the runway written on the map so I wonder how to do it.

Spreading hate hey. Well thought out genius.

You have to sugar coat everything with kids today, the advice given so far was spot on. Avsim should have a no bleeding heart policy. lol

Danny - if I understand your problem correctly - you really can not do this type of approach without having the approach plate. All the info you need will be on the plate - all you have to do is manually control the a/c to follow the procedure outlined on the plate. You will have to manually hit your altitudes and specific distances, etc. YOU have to control your airspeed, groundspeed, rate of descent, altitude, etc. You CAN configure the autopilot to assist but you mainly have to fly the a/c.

 

So pick your airport and get the approach plate and go from there. These may help! Have fun.

 

 

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/ndb-appr.htm

 

 

Vic

I didn't say that I don't know how to land manually.

 

I always use ILS autolanding so I have no knowledge about manual landing.

 

Have you thought of a career in politics? :lol:

 

Head towards Edwards AFB in California, they have big, long and wide runways to practice touch and go as much as you want.

 

Wondering if you worked through any of the FSX lessons, such as flying the 737 or did you just jump into the uber-tube and takeoff?

 

 

They better know how when conditions are below minimums.

 

 

Hi Rendi, of course... as I understand things, pilots are required to perform a minimum number of ILS landings to maintain 'familiarity' but essentially as a norm, the majority of landings are manual.

 

I think your confusing auto land with ILS...

 

Usually you descend on the glide slope then take off the autopilot.

They better know how when conditions are below minimums.

LOL. Understand your point but if conditions were below minimums, they would execute a missed approach and not land.

 

Vic

Just steer toward the runway, aim for the the touchdown markers at 55% N1 and try not to hit any trees or buildings.

 

 

Have you thought of a career in politics? :lol:



Head towards Edwards AFB in California, they have big, long and wide runways to practice touch and go as much as you want.



Wondering if you worked through any of the FSX lessons, such as flying the 737 or did you just jump into the uber-tube and takeoff?

 

I know how to land manually but I have no knowledge about it so I just asked the procedures. Instead of calling me liar you would have answered. Nevermind, this topic have gone too far.

Danny,

 

You had the right idea with the NDB. It took a little bit of searching, but it turns out there is a VOR DME NDB approach for both runway 02 and 20 at Skiathos (or at least there was when the charts were released in 2007). This page from the VATSIM Los Angeles ARTCC pilot certification program discusses non-precision VOR approaches.

 

If the weather is nice, ATC would probably just vector you for a visual approach and clear you once you have the airport in sight. Then you just configure the airplane for landing and fly the pattern.